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Re: Streaming Tidal On Bose Soundtouch 300

I guess the only way to do this right and get the full benefit is to go through a digital to analog converter (DAC) and then use analog to a receiver or powered speakers.  That's something you can't do with a Bose Soundtouch 300.

 

Barring some additional learning, I'll give the Bluesound Node 2i a try via optical to the Bose Soundtouch 300.  Best Buy has a 14 day return policy if I don't like it.

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@jimgfitz wrote:

 

Barring some additional learning, I'll give the Bluesound Node 2i a try via optical to the Bose Soundtouch 300.  Best Buy has a 14 day return policy if I don't like it.


 

The audio companies have been using optical for high quality digital connections for years. It is only just recently that HDMI has been a consideration for higher quality audio connections. 

 

There are capable receivers that may have Tidal baked in and may decode MQA and may connect to your Sound Touch 300 but that’s a lot of mays and stereo stand real estate.

 

You may find the Node 2i and Tidal combination connected to your ST 300 sufficient. 

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I just want to add, after 24 hours of use, this Dragonfly Cobalt is well worth the price for anyone who is streaming Tidal through an iPhone or computer to a pair of headphones, even cheap headphones.

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Here is the reply I got from Bluesound when I asked about connecting a Bluesound Node 2i to my Bose Soundtouch 300 using optical:

 

"Vishnu M. (BluOS)

Jul 31, 3:48 PM EDT

Hello Jim,

Thank you for contacting the BluOS Support Crew. I am happy to look into this and help you out.

If you run an optical connection between your Bose Soundtouch 300 and the Node 2i then you will be able to output partial MQA at 24bit/96khz.

BlueSound players output full MQA at 24/192khz when you run an analog connection between the Node2i and any other player, but you will not be able to get full MQA on optical.

Kind Regards,

Vishnu M

BluOS Support Crew Analyst"
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I think 96/24 is the same resolution you get from the Tidal app running on a computer.  I have determined that this sounds terrific connecting my computer to my Bose Soundtouch 300 using HDMI.  One thing I don't know is if the Bose degrades the sound at all since it is connected using HDMI.

 

Based on information I have gathered so far, I believe the Bluesound Node 2i will be a worthwhile investment for playing Tidal HIFI MQA on my Bose Soundtouch 300 using an optical connection.  I believe the sound will be as good or better, but no worse, than using a computer connected via HDMI.  Also, using a computer is a pain since it is located across the room from my listening position.

 

That said, using a computer with a Dragonfly Cobalt DAC and headphones is a whole other level of great sounding music, probably on par with a high dollar receiver, DAC, speakers setup.

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@jimgfitz @Wrote:

 

Based on information I have gathered so far, I believe the Bluesound Node 2i will be a worthwhile investment for playing Tidal HIFI MQA on my Bose Soundtouch 300 using an optical connection.  I believe the sound will be as good or better, but no worse, than using a computer connected via HDMI.  Also, using a computer is a pain since it is located across the room from my listening position.

 

 

This sounds like a nice clean solution for getting Tidal MQA streams to your ST300. I looked at the Tidal web site, there are many solutions to accomplish, some involve a full(expensive) receiver or amp which I think might be over kill when connecting to a sound bar.

 

I have listened to some higher end gear playing higher resolution files, including Tidal. The expensive gear makes a good case for digital audio.

 

Looking forward to your thoughts about how the Node 2i performs at home.

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And here's a reply from Tidal regarding streaming through an Apple TV 4K:

 

"Chester (TIDAL)

Aug 1, 9:03 AM EDT

Hello,

There is nothing found in the specification for Apple TV 4k stating that it supports MQA audio: https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/

The best audio output for the Apple TV 4K looks to be in line with our HiFi 16 bit / 44.1 KHz stream.You may want to content Apple to verify, but, I have not found anything suggesting audio better than a 16 bit sample rate.

Please don't hesitate to contact me if further questions arise.

Have a wonderful day!

Best Regards,

Chester
Technical Support Specialist"

 

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Just as an aside, I tried using a USB to HDMI cable from my Surface Pro 4 to Bose Soundtouch 300 and could not get it to work.  Earlier, I used an HDMI cable from my Dell XPS 15 to Bose Soundtouch 300 and it worked great and sounded great.  My Surface Pro 4 goes up on eBay tomorrow to pay for a Bluesound Node 2i.  I will use optical to the Bose.   That's going to be the best I can do until/unless I purchase a receiver and speakers to replace the Bose.

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Verizon made some changes to their data plans and I changed plans today for my wife and myself.  We now both get free Apple Music, on-going, not just a trial period.  Now I have to decide if I want to keep Tidal and/or Spotify.

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@jimgfitz wrote:

Verizon made some changes to their data plans and I changed plans today for my wife and myself.  We now both get free Apple Music, on-going, not just a trial period.  Now I have to decide if I want to keep Tidal and/or Spotify.


 

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I dont think you you can go wrong with Apple Music. You already have some Apple hardware and Apple Music is aviaible on your phone, iPad, Mac and in the car if you have CarPlay. Even with Bluetooth, Apple Music sounds pretty good in a car not equipped with CarPlay. I use that feature with Siri eyes free managing my Nissan truck audio. Apple Music has a very large library and the sound quality is very good. Apple Music also sounds very good on Bose gear, especially with the assistance of hardware like Apple TVv4 or Airport Express. 

 

I stopped shopping for music services a while ago, after Apple Music became available, all while trying to stay true to the Apple echo system. I remain very happy with the results.