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ST - Pro
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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

Hi Oldghm,

It's been nice to see you here again.

Oldghm posted:

Beyond software updates and service center tech use, I'm wondering about the USB service port. Will it be possible for Bose to troubleshoot a malfunctioning unit on line? 

 

Not in the current plan. This would take some software engineering to do it.  Great idea though. I'll pass it along.

Thanks,

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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

Tom the Guitar Guy posted:

I just finished a casino bar gig.   Bar is located in between two restaurants and my back is to the walkway and Casino slot machines...  yup,  loud environment...

Gotta tell you though,  the S1 worked great - loud enough to get over the slots... in fact one person came over while I was packing up and stayed help had been at the slot machine for the last couple of hours (behind me)  and thoroughly enjoyed the music...

Here are a few pics...  I'll write yoo a more comprehensive review in their next couple days...20180127_19013920180127_19014820180127_18432120180127_184313

Tom, which output on the T1 fed the S1? 

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The main output...

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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

Auron posted:

Is it possible to connect 2 of them in stereo via bluetooth?

I dont think so, but even if it did allow it, i wouldnt recommend it. I would consider splitting the source into two mono signals via a 3.5mm breakout splitter cable then using two separate bluetooth transmitters to go to each S1. More complex but has a much further reach and is way more reliable. 

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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

Well...i just heard about it this a.m. , watched everything on line that can possibly be watched and then thought long and hard about my setup. I use a compact w/ a T1. I figured this would be nice to have should the compact ever give me trouble at a gig so.....it's in the mail. I'll let you know what I think about it when I get my hands on it.

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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

I have to give a followup after using the S1 for more than a week.  I'm still liking it overall a lot, but there are a few things that are not perfect.

I'm still not crazy about using a speaker on a stick.  Part of the beauty of the Compact was having the tower that would lift the tweeters up without the need for a separate stand.  I have bought a couple of smaller and lighter stands than the standard Ultimate Support speaker stand, but it's not as convenient as carrying the Compact speaker extensions.  And I've tried the S1 on the floor and on a table, and I still don't think it sounds as good as it does when it's elevated above head height.

The vocal seems muddier than the Compact.  This is funny because I remember that one of the complaints when the Compact was launched was that it had too much treble.  It seems now that I've used it for a few years that I prefer the boosted treble and have adjusted my ears and my technique to this.  I'm adjusting to the S1, but it's worth noting that there is a difference.  Having said this, the acoustic guitar sounds "mahvelous" through the S1 - nice and bright and full.  It doesn't have quite the low-end warmth that the Compact has, but it's acceptable.

The reverb is best used sparingly for me.  It's a pretty big hall reverb, so I'm finding that I can't use more than about 9:00 on the dial.

The versatile shape is great in use, but it tends to roll around the back of a vehicle unless you put it on its face.  I'd rather having it standing up. but that just doesn't work for me.

Again, overall I'm really liking this new system, but it's worth noting its quirks too.

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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

Hi Tony, Tom.

Since you two have been talking about stands, I thought I'd drop in here.

This is a compact stand from Yorkville Sound. Notice the legs. They are fully extended

It's 48 inches (122 cm) tall at the maximum height. It is tallest when the legs are fully extended so there's no real benefit pulling in the legs unless you are really tight for floor space.

At this height, I could use it if the audience is seated. The logo on S1 Pro is 49 inches (125 cm) off the floor in this picture.

Interesting to note, with the legs fully extended, the stand takes more floor space than a Compact.  If floor space is tight, I would use a Compact instead of an S1 Pro on a stand.  But I'm enjoying the added portability you get working on batteries. You don't have to find a power outlet!

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I have an OnStage stand that maxes out at 48" and a Samson stand at 54" and have used them both at gigs now.  They're both pretty good - I prefer the 54" for height and the 48" for lightness and portability.  I also ordered an OnStage mic speaker stand adaptor from ZZSounds (also available at B&H) that screws a cylindrical speaker mount on the top of any mic stand that I think may be even more useful for some situations.

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Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and thoughts about the S1 Pro.

Tom Munch posted:

I have to give a followup after using the S1 for more than a week.  I'm still liking it overall a lot, but there are a few things that are not perfect.

Like you, I like it too. 

I'm still not crazy about using a speaker on a stick.  Part of the beauty of the Compact was having the tower that would lift the tweeters up without the need for a separate stand. I have bought a couple of smaller and lighter stands than the standard Ultimate Support speaker stand, but it's not as convenient as carrying the Compact speaker extensions.  

Thinking about the S1 Pro is one thing. Thinking about it as someone who owns an L1 Compact is another. It's hard not to draw comparisons.

And I've tried the S1 on the floor and on a table, and I still don't think it sounds as good as it does when it's elevated above head height.

When you get it up high, not surprisingly it sounds more like the L1 Compact, than in the other positions (unless you use the L1 Compact without the extensions).

The vocal seems muddier than the Compact.  This is funny because I remember that one of the complaints when the Compact was launched was that it had too much treble.  It seems now that I've used it for a few years that I prefer the boosted treble and have adjusted my ears and my technique to this.  I'm adjusting to the S1, but it's worth noting that there is a difference.  Having said this, the acoustic guitar sounds "mahvelous" through the S1 - nice and bright and full.  It doesn't have quite the low-end warmth that the Compact has, but it's acceptable.

I did some testing at 20 and then 30 feet. I think you may like vocals better at a distance.

The reverb is best used sparingly for me.  It's a pretty big hall reverb, so I'm finding that I can't use more than about 9:00 on the dial.

Ditto, but from what I recall, you don't bury your tone with reverb.

The versatile shape is great in use, but it tends to roll around the back of a vehicle unless you put it on its face.  I'd rather having it standing up. but that just doesn't work for me.

Again, overall I'm really liking this new system, but it's worth noting its quirks too.

It's great to see you here Tom,

ST

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Re: Bose S1 Pro System

ST posted:

Hi Tom,

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and thoughts about the S1 Pro.

Tom Munch posted:

I have to give a followup after using the S1 for more than a week.  I'm still liking it overall a lot, but there are a few things that are not perfect.

Like you, I like it too. 

I'm still not crazy about using a speaker on a stick.  Part of the beauty of the Compact was having the tower that would lift the tweeters up without the need for a separate stand. I have bought a couple of smaller and lighter stands than the standard Ultimate Support speaker stand, but it's not as convenient as carrying the Compact speaker extensions.  

Thinking about the S1 Pro is one thing. Thinking about it as someone who owns an L1 Compact is another. It's hard not to draw comparisons.

Yes, I'm definitely doing a comparo.

And I've tried the S1 on the floor and on a table, and I still don't think it sounds as good as it does when it's elevated above head height.

When you get it up high, not surprisingly it sounds more like the L1 Compact, than in the other positions (unless you use the L1 Compact without the extensions).

I may prefer the EQ curve when it's on a stand too.  The little actuator switch inside the speaker hole is very cool.

The vocal seems muddier than the Compact.  This is funny because I remember that one of the complaints when the Compact was launched was that it had too much treble.  It seems now that I've used it for a few years that I prefer the boosted treble and have adjusted my ears and my technique to this.  I'm adjusting to the S1, but it's worth noting that there is a difference.  Having said this, the acoustic guitar sounds "mahvelous" through the S1 - nice and bright and full.  It doesn't have quite the low-end warmth that the Compact has, but it's acceptable.

I did some testing at 20 and then 30 feet. I think you may like vocals better at a distance.

I did too.  I still had to boost the highs to get the sound I wanted.

The reverb is best used sparingly for me.  It's a pretty big hall reverb, so I'm finding that I can't use more than about 9:00 on the dial.

Ditto, but from what I recall, you don't bury your tone with reverb.

Yep, can't stand too much.

The versatile shape is great in use, but it tends to roll around the back of a vehicle unless you put it on its face.  I'd rather having it standing up. but that just doesn't work for me.

Again, overall I'm really liking this new system, but it's worth noting its quirks too.

It's to see you Tom,

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