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rogpette
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Jul 20, 2015

How do you use backing tracks?

I.m a proud owner of one L1M2 with B2 after several years of using rcf art 522 as a front PA system.
I can now put the speaker behind me and I can hear myself perfectly. I perform as an solo act and sometimes as a duo. I do the lead vocals and play electric and acoustic guitar.
I use backing tracks (midifiles) that I have created myself. It contains drums, bass, piano, organ and all I need to make the song sound good. I use a Roland Mc80 sequencer and the Roland xv-5080 sound module with several expansion boards. I use the Tc Helicon voice live rack for vocal effects and choir. I also control this by the midi files I have created. For the guitar I have the line6 pod x3 live. My main mixer is the line6 stagescape m20d. I also use an iPad with the forescore app for lyrics.

I am curious about what others use for backing track, what kind of files, programs etc that works live.
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Mister_D
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

Well I'll jump in. Sounds like you got it all together though. I run a pretty basic set-up. I use midi files and mp3 files run through my laptop using the program SHOWPLAY. I play a Fender Strat, and a Breedlove acoustic through a POD HD500. I also have a Roland GR-20 guitar synth but hardly use it anymore. An Audix OM7 mic straight to the T1. Doing strictly a single the T1 has just the right amount of inputs.
As a side note, I see you're from Norway. I just spent some time with relatives here in the states that were visiting from Stockholm. Skoal
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

Since your post was back in September I'm sure you have it nailed but just for the record here is my approach
I am a professional solo act in Houston and do a lot of private and corporate events. Some are small (50 people or less) and some are large(up to 1200).
I use the Bose compact for the small gigs and my L1M1 (with the big round base) plus 2 B1s.
I used to produce all of my own backing tracks but it took too much work and I could never get the sound to be exactly what I wanted. Now I purchase custom tracks from KaraokeVersion.com. I can tailor the instruments and vocals I want and most tracks are very good.
I run a PC with Windows Media Player for the tracks and use MiniLyrics.com for the lyrics.
The tunes go from the laptop via USB to channels 4/5 on a Bose T1 and then to the L1 or Compact. My Line 6 JTV Variax guitar goes through a Line 6 POD HD500X and then to channel 2 of the T1 and my Shure wireless headset mic to channel 1.
I used a full PA for years until I upgraded to the Bose systems 4 years ago. Since then I have done latterly hundreds of shows and at every one at least one person will tell me how great the sound is.
Sometimes space is an issue at the smaller gigs and I can't get there separation I want but I always have the L1 behind and off to one side of me so I can hear myself.
Since I do almost 100% covers of virtually every genre from Sinatra to One Republic and pop to country, jazz, standards, and on my sound is critical to having a successful performance and Bose is the key to my success for the equipment piece of the puzzle.
Karaoke Version is the other key piece because without great backing tracks I can't effectively play the lead guitar parts and sing the lead vocals.
Just my take on Bose and Karaoke version.com. Hope you can use it. T1
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

I also find KV a great asset to my single. There custom tracks are great, and if I need to do something different with the track to customize it further I use Reaper software. My L1 Model II goes with me for every job. I would not be able to do what I do without it. Gig Salad (gigsalad.com)is another reason my solo has taken off. Congrats on your solo act going well, and rock on!! Smile
rogpette
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

Thanks for your comments and for sharing how you do your performance. As for now I'm quite comfortable with using midi file's and a soundmodule as my backing tracks. This makes it possible to control my voice live rack for voice effects and back ground vocals (choir). I might consider making prerecorded tracks in the future where I also can record som guitar tracks (instead of using the guitar sounds in my Roland xv-5080)
I have recently installed the Ableton Live 9 on my laptop and are beginning to learn the program. But there might be other programs out there that is similar, and maybe easier to use. But for now I'll give the Ableton a try.
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

I build mine (for a duo) out of MIDI files. Mostly, I find pre-existing MIDI's online for the songs I need out with Google searches. I manipulate them into versions I like by fixing breaks, endings, count-offs, tempos, keys, etc. Once the structure is decent, they are mixed down with a Kurzweil PC1 and a Roland Fantom XR sound module into an audio track in Cakewalk. This creates a wav file that is converted into an mp3 for the tracks that lack a bass and guitar. Guitar sampling still sucks, so live guitar is still the way to go. As a bassist, I don't need that track in the mix. The MP3's are placed into iTunes and sync'd over to an iPOD Nano. I made a nice little holder for the Nano using a standard mic clip and bending it into shape for the Nano with a lighter and a pair of needle-nose pliers. The Nano sets on its own mic stand that also hold the T1 for the BOSE system. For back-up I keep a set of the files in my iPhone. For double back-up, my guitarist keeps another set in a laptop. I a use a laptop to control the LED lights with DMXIS, and that might be yet another source for backup, but the iPOD Nano hasn't failed us yet. The guitarist also develops tracks, but I think his process is much easier and less wonky with an online editor. The quality of the tracks he brings in are impressive and seem every bit as flexible in terms of building song structure as my method.  Here is performance with sequenced lights of several song selections: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cz_aBpzdis Cheers, WES

A cross section of songs performed live by @MillerSearcyNoonan -AKA MSN Music
rogpette
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

Thanks WES for sharing how you make your backing tracks. This might be a way that I can consider also. Great performance on YouTube, by the way 🙂
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

Thanks Rogpette, you're way too kind. The idea is to constantly improve. I'll see if I can find the online web address for where my guitarist makes his tracks. He pays a nominal subscription fee to use it.
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Thanks WES for sharing how you make your backing tracks. This might be a way that I can consider also. Great performance on YouTube, by the way 🙂
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

Great YouTube video of your performance.
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Re: How do you use backing tracks?

I use my BOSS RC 300 looper. I can create up,to three different tracks. One for the T1-intro/outro, T-2:verse and T-3: chorus. Or depending on the song, 1-verse, 2-chorus, 3-bridge.

Sounds: I try to keep things with an unplugged sound. For example I use congas/percussion, bass and piano and dub in an additional guitar part.

I was using my own piano and a bass and a Cajon and my guitar to beat out the percussion/drum sounds. However...

...Here's the cool thing...I now use my iPad mini w/Garage Band for my Bass and Piano. And an incredible app called AfroLatin DM for my drums/percussion. It is incredible and allows for shakers, claves, cowbells (and more) as well as the various congas. So I create a cool conga/percussion pattern that I like. And the sound is very clean. Not a cheesy karaoke drum beat sound.

Then with my IPad and Garage Band app. I go to Smart Bass and I will literally play the bass licks on the simulated fretted bass. Yes, I have to figure out the bass parts but it's not hard and many are on You Tube. I then add piano chords if it sounds good to the mix (or I may not add piano) then I may dub in myself picking the guitar as a second guitar. All in all it sounds very full but with minimal instruments. And again clean and unplugged.it does NOT sound like a prepurchased backing track. Yes, it requires a bit work but I enjoy the mixing and production part creating your own sound.