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PDilorenzo
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L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

hi, so i have the model L1-II T1 and base2. i use an ipad for my muisic and connect via RCA connections to the T1 from my ipad. sometimes its neccesary to have a speaker at the other end of the hall, is there a way of hooking up either wirelss speaker or a wired speaker to the T1 based on the inputs im already using suhcthat the ipad music and my mic will go through both or multiple speakers? Thanks

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ST - Pro
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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Hi Patrizia,

Please tell us how far away the remote loudspeaker will be.  How big is the hall? 

For these kinds of situations I use an L1® Compact for the remote loudspeaker and a wireless microphone/guitar system. Instead of using a microphone or guitar, I connect the T1® to the wireless transmitter.

I've had great results up to 75 through walls and on different floors. I expect that I could work with greater distances. I just haven't needed to.

Connections:

  • T1® Master Output to the wireless transmitter
  • Wireless receiver connected to L1® Compact Channel 2



Please tell us more about your needs. 

Thank you,

ST

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Hi and thank you for the reply. The connections is usually under 100 feet. 

Im still a bit confused as to your connection though. In my setup I do usually have a wired mic. Also I have a wireless mic as well. Music is through an iPad to the tone match. 

From what you wrote it seems to use a satellite speaker I may have to substitute the wireless mic connection ? We don’t have instruments. So the music would then play through the L’1 model II and the satellite system simultaneously ?

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Hi Patrizia,

You don't need to change anything about your inputs to the T1. Continue to connect your wired microphone, wireless microphone, and backing tracks as you are doing now.

What's new is...

T1 Master to Wireless Transmitter

If you use an L1 Compact as the satellite loudspeaker

Wireless Receiver to Compact Channel 2



The sound will play through the L1 Model II and the L1 Compact simultaneously.

Is that clearer?

ST

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Yes that is awesome. Thank you so much ! 

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

This connection is exactly what I want ST. Can you let me know what wireless transmitter / receiver you use.

Also if you've any experience using the new Bose S1 pro as the additional speaker? And / if there are any pros/cons over using an L1 compact.

Thanks!

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Hi hoohaa1,

Don't take this as a recommendation or an endorsement.

I've been using Shure SLX wireless systems

for many years. I got mine before there were so many options and digital systems available. 

This system is NOT digital and it is toward the upper end price-wise. I got my first one for electric guitar, but found out that it worked fine as a wireless extension for my L1® systems.  Shure says they are good for up to 100 meters (300+ feet). I haven't tested that limit, but I have had good results over 25 meters through walls on two floors.

Today, there are digital systems from Boss and Line 6 with entry level systems for a third of the Shure systems. But entry level systems have much shorter ranges, typically 16 meters (50 feet).

This is an area where you get what you pay for.

ST

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Hi ST.

 

So funnily enough a few years ago I bought this very SLX receiver with a wireless shure SM58 mic. It was second hand and ended up didn't work and got stung! So I got it to a dealer who repaired it. I've used it occasionally but the mic produces an ongoing click and I've had terrible feedback issues with the L1 - a story for another day.

My query is, if I buy a body pack separately in theory could this be used? I suppose then I'd find out if the transmitter is flawed or the handheld mic.

And if so if I invest in a Bose S1 pro as like the look and size of it, would it be a good solution you think?

Attach the body pack to the additional speaker at other end of venue. Hook my aux out from T1 to the transmitter and presto?

L

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Hi hoohaa1,

hoohaa1 posted:

Hi ST.

So funnily enough a few years ago I bought this very SLX receiver with a wireless shure SM58 mic. It was second hand and ended up didn't work and got stung! So I got it to a dealer who repaired it. I've used it occasionally but the mic produces an ongoing click and I've had terrible feedback issues with the L1 - a story for another day.

You'll need to work with the dealer who repaired it to diagnose the cause of the click.  You may want to get a Beta 58 capsule for the microphone for better gain-before feedback



My query is, if I buy a body pack separately in theory could this be used? I suppose then I'd find out if the transmitter is flawed or the handheld mic.

Work with the dealer to diagnose the issue. It could be a fault in the receiver, but we don't have enough information here to know.



And if so if I invest in a Bose S1 pro as like the look and size of it, would it be a good solution you think?

It depends on what you need in the remote location.  If you use the S1 Pro - you'll probably put it up on a speaker stand or a table. I wouldn't leave an S1 Pro on the floor out of my line-of-sight, unless it was out of the path of pedestrian traffic.



Attach the body pack to the additional speaker at other end of venue.

The body pack is the transmitter - so you would connect that to the T1®. Connect the receiver to the remote speaker (S1 Pro or L1® Compact)

Hook my aux out from T1 to the transmitter and presto?

L

You can connect to the T1 Aux or T1 Master Output. It depends: If you need a separate mix - use the T1 Aux - notes below.

T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine Aux Output
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 ST

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Re: L1 Model II with T1® connection to a remote speaker

Thanks for the detailed reply as always.

Yes I get confused re: transmitter / receiver as this other system I was looking at I think is the reverse. The body packs being receivers etc but think I follow you now.

So if I invest in a shure SLX1 body pack I attach that to the master output (I won't need a different mix as I wanna hear my vocals and tracks the same as audience).

And that transmits signal to the SLX4 receiver that I have near the S1 pro or other speaker / system.

I suppose having the SLX4 is only helpful if can diagnose the system works and the mic is the one at fault. I might look about and try to borrow a diff wireless mic to diagnose.

 

The above system might be an option too. But think at this stage I'm gonna invest in the S1 Pro anyway as the monitor I have is very basic (thats why prefer using the L1 as it's suppose) so think having this to double as a monitor when needed, and an extra satellite but with consistent Bose sound probably best option for now.

Thanks. L