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Linking devices for an singer.

So sorry if this has been asked as I have searched but can't find an exact answer. Is it possible to link up a Bose S1 with another type of speaker (i.e. soundlink revolve or similar) that is also bluetooth compatible?

What I am trying to achieve is, a care home have asked me to perform outside with my Bose S1 while the people inside can open the patio doors & windows and watch the show from a safe distance.

Now at the moment they can just open the doors & windows and listen, but if it rains or is a chilly day, they still want to be able to hear me with the windows and doors shut.

So my idea is, I would leave a small speaker like a soundlink on their doorstep that they can take indoors and listen to the show while watching through the window, and then they would leave it back outside for me to wipe down and sanitise when the show is over.

Is there a way I can make this work or is the only solution to lug about 2 x Bose S1's? I appreciate any advice on this. Many thanks.

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Hi Tecnikal,

While connecting a Soundlink revolve might be possible, I can't imagine using it in place of an S1, if you have the S1.

While I am guilty of wanting a new S1 Jr. half the size of the S1 I would still prefer to use 2 S1's over the alternative of a speaker that is really designed for recorded music, not live. 

I say treat the folks inside to the same quality sound and even dispersion that you get.

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Hi, Tecnical,

Welcome to the Bose Portable PA Community.

@Tecnikal posted:

So sorry if this has been asked as I have searched but can't find an exact answer. Is it possible to link up a Bose S1 with another type of speaker (i.e. soundlink revolve or similar) that is also bluetooth compatible?

You CAN use the Bose Connect app to send Bluetooth audio from a tablet or phone to two Bose devices (e.g. S1 Pros, SoundLink Revolve). You cannot share the audio from the physical inputs on the S1 Pro with another Bluetooth device using the built-in Bluetooth functionality.



What I am trying to achieve is, a care home have asked me to perform outside with my Bose S1 while the people inside can open the patio doors & windows and watch the show from a safe distance.

Good for you!

I'm doing shows at care homes too. We are setting up outside and people open their windows and come out on their balconies.



Now at the moment they can just open the doors & windows and listen, but if it rains or is a chilly day, they still want to be able to hear me with the windows and doors shut.

With a little ingenuity and adapters, you could connect the S1 Pro line out to a Bluetooth transmitter - and send the output to a Bluetooth enabled loudspeaker (e.g., SoundLink Revolve).



So my idea is, I would leave a small speaker like a soundlink on their doorstep that they can take indoors and listen to the show while watching through the window, and then they would leave it back outside for me to wipe down and sanitise when the show is over.

For people who can hear you in-the-air, if they can also hear the Bluetooth loudspeaker, there will be a noticeable and annoying latency between the live sound and the Bluetooth sound.



Is there a way I can make this work or is the only solution to lug about 2 x Bose S1's? I appreciate any advice on this. Many thanks.

Whether you use one S1 Pro and one SoundLink Revolve or two S1 Pro systems you would still need to get a third-party Bluetooth transmitter to send the sound from the S1 Pro (to which you connect your microphone and instrument) to the second Bluetooth loudspeaker.

To avoid the latency you would get with Bluetooth, you can use a wired connection. I understand that complicates things considerably.

Here are some notes on the connections. S1 Pro Daisy Chain

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Thanks you. I only wanted something smaller because firstly they are in a little lounge just sitting and listening, as if they were listening to the radio or watching TV. Secondly I don't really want to carry too much from the car and do it in one trip if possible, so something small I can fit in a bag would have been ideal.

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Thank you ST. I was also thinking ahead, because if it get's to Xmas and they are still only allowing garden shows, then I am happy to wrap up warm and perform, but need to make sure they can still hear me clearly from the safety of indoors with all the windows shut.

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Thanks for your input. I didn't realise about latency with bluetooth. running a long lead IS an option because you would only need a little crack in a window. So could I expand on this then and if I get a long lead, can I attach it from the line out on my S1 to a smaller Bose speaker located inside the buidling?

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Perfect. That's exactly what I'll do. Can I just confirm that a 1/4 inch TS running from my S1 to a 1/8 TRS straight into the revolve?

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Hi, Tecnikal.

@Tecnikal posted:

Thanks you. I only wanted something smaller because firstly they are in a little lounge just sitting and listening, as if they were listening to the radio or watching TV. Secondly I don't really want to carry too much from the car and do it in one trip if possible, so something small I can fit in a bag would have been ideal.

I understand - really I do.  If you wanted to try it you'll need a cable like this.
Hosa Cable CMP105 1/8 Inch TRS to 1/4 Inch TS Cable - 5 Foot



The 1/4 inch (6.3mm) Tip-Sleeve jack (bigger one) goes to the S1 Pro line out.

The 1/8 Tip-Ring-Sleeve jack (smaller one) goes to a Bluetooth transmitter. I would use a long-range transmitter.  The inexpensive ones typically are only good for up to 10 meters (30 feet). That's not going to be good enough for your application.

I have a SoundLink Revolve + and it's pretty good at filling a small room with sound. If I were to do this, I'd probably put the SoundLink Revolve + in a plastic bag. The sound will come through fine and you can still use the volume controls. But that would simplify keeping it clean.

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Hi, Tecnikal,

@Tecnikal posted:

Perfect. That's exactly what I'll do. Can I just confirm that a 1/4 inch TS running from my S1 to a 1/8 TRS straight into the revolve?

Yes, I just tested a cable like this with my S1 Pro and SoundLink Revolve+.
Hosa Cable CMP105 1/8 Inch TRS to 1/4 Inch TS Cable - 5 Foot

The 1/4 inch (6.3mm) Tip-Sleeve jack (bigger one) goes to the S1 Pro line out.

The 1/8 Tip-Ring-Sleeve jack (smaller one) goes to the SoundLink Revolve+

NOTES:

You have to turn up the S1 Pro fairly loud to get a strong signal out of the S1 Pro Line Out (and then through the SoundLink Revolve).

If the cable from the S1 Pro to the SoundLink Revolve is longer than 20 feet (6 meters) you could end up with line noise. 

Since you are providing sound to people who cannot hear you through the air, the latency may not be a big issue. If you can get a long-range Bluetooth transmitter for a good price, that may be a better solution. There will be a disconnect visually though. They will see you singing a few moments before they hear you.

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Re: Linking devices for an singer.

Thanks. Perfect. Much appreciate the advice from all of you.