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WaltR
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Ll Model 1S

I presently have a L1 Model ll with 2 B1 bass modules. I've had this for about 3 years but I really need a backup. When I firt purchased it I tried to purchase a L1 Model ll power stand and was told it wasn't available by it self. Now I am thinking about buying the L1 1S as a back up. My questions is, will the tower from the L1 Model ll work with the 1S? Also will the two B1 Base Modules work with the 1S power stand? I'm just interested in having a spare power stand.
Thanks.
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Re: Ll Model 1S

Hi WaltR,

Like the Model II, the Power Stand for the Model 1S is not available for purchase by itself.

The Cylindrical Radiator® (the tower) is not interchangeable between the Model 1S and the Model II.

Your two B1 Modules will work with the Model 1S.

Reflecting on our previous conversation, I still think that the L1 Compact could be a very good solution for you.

Cheers,

ST
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Thank you ST. I was afraid the Compact wouldn't be powerful enough and the sound difference would be to great. The L1 Model ll is advertised to handle 500 people and is 250 watts times 2. I haven't seen specs in these terms to compare with the L1 Model ll.
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Re: Ll Model 1S

+1 on the Compact. As a backup, it would bail you out of most situations, at a low cost.
It might not be perfect, volume-wise, but I'm sure your audience would understand.
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Hi WaltR,

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Originally posted by WaltR:
Thank you ST. I was afraid the Compact wouldn't be powerful enough

From our other conversation:
"Another option for a backup is a Compact. It might be a little under powered for a chatty crowd of 100 people, but for your smaller audiences it might be enough."

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and the sound difference would be to great.

They actually sound pretty similar until you reach the limits of the Compact. The Compact seems to have more presence than its larger cousins when you are really close to it, but out in the audience, it's not all that different.
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The L1 Model ll is advertised to handle 500 people and is 250 watts times 2. I haven't seen specs in these terms to compare with the L1 Model ll.


It's really hard to correlate watts to performance with these systems. It's like trying to correlate horsepower to mileage in different classes of vehicles. Without taking into account all the other factors like class of vehicle, driving conditions, and driver behavior, you can't predict the outcomes in a meaningful way.

I think (this is me not Bose talking) that you can definitely get these kinds of numbers or better in quiet concert settings: Model II - 500 people, Model 1S - 300 people, Compact - 100 people. Bose matches the power to the size of the speaker array and bass subsystems. The length of the speaker array has a lot to do with the distance you can reasonably cover, and that gives us a sense of how many people we can reach. Your Model II has 24 drivers in the speaker array. The Model 1S has 12, and the Compact has 6.

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Originally posted by WaltR:
The largest audience is 100 people max. I play local clubs and VFW, Legion, Elks, Etc. The audience is talking and drinking while I, we are playing. I play 50's through 70's with some modern country thrown in for the most part.


You're right: The Model 1S would be a drop-in replacement for your Model II for your shows when you've got 100 people. And the Compact could do very well as a backup in a pinch (true backup situation where something has happened to your Model II).

Rolling back around to the backup situation where a Model II has failed. You might want to call Bose to see how fast they can do an exchange on a remanufactured Model II Power Stand. That can be much faster than a repair, but it's a little more expensive.

Call Bose® Product & Technical Support at (877) 335-2673 (U.S. and Canada only)
Monday-Friday: 9:00 AM - 9:00 PM ET

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Re: Ll Model 1S

Wow! Lot's of info and I am very thankful. I was originally leaning to the F1 812 but then I thought I may add the Sub as well. I knew it was close for the annual Bose sale and was hoping the F1 would be included but I was wrong. I guess it's to new. Anyway, than you again, now I just need to make a decision!
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Re: Ll Model 1S

Well I ended up purchasing the L1 Compact to be used as a backup in case my L1 Model II fails. Thanks for all the direction on this!
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Hi WaltR,

Thanks for letting us know the outcome. I can't really see you regretting the decision, and you may find that you'll use the Compact not only as a back-up, but also for the odd gig where you don't necessarily need the "muscle" of the L2.

Have a good 2016.

Take care,

Tony
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Re: Ll Model 1S

Hi WaltR,

It's great to hear from you again. Thanks for the update.

Enjoy your Compact and have fun sharing your music.

Please come back and tell us about experiences with it.

ST