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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

ST posted:

Hi Dan,

Try this (I just did)

  • Make sure that every device that may be connected to the S1 Pro devices has Bluetooth turned off
    • Everything that I can think of is turned off. 
  • On your tablet or phone (Settings), forget the S1 Pro devices
    • Went into my phone and "forgot" the S1 Pros
  • Delete the Bose Connect app
    • Removed the Bose Connect App from my phone
  • On your tablet or phone (Settings) Pair the S1 Pro devices to your tablet or phone
    • The first one I tried was Bose S1 Pro/LE-Bose S1 Pro.  I was able to connect to the device Bose S1 Pro (Headphone symbol).  When I tried to connect to the normal BlueTooth symbol named Le-Bose S1 Pro, it said connection rejected by LE-Bose S1 Pro.
    • I tried to connect to the second S1 Pro, but couldn't connect to either.  The Headphone Symbol one didn't give me an error, it just went onto my paired list, but didn't connect.  The "LE-Bose S1 Pro #3" with the BlueTooth symbol gave the the error, Connection rejected by LE-Bose S1 Pro #3.
  • On your tablet or phone Install the Bose Connect app
    • Installed the Bose Connect App on my phone
  • In the Bose Connect app, you should be able to connect to your S1 Pro devices now
    • I was unable to connect to eiter device.  I got the same messages and 3 strikes you're out as before.


ST

 

I don't remember seeing the LE-Bose S1 Pro when I've connected prior to this upgrade.  I don't understand why each S1 Pro shows up as 2 devices.  For example, one device is named Bose S1 Pro.  On my phone, in the BlueTooth settings, I see 2 different devices for this 1 S1 pro.  One named "Bose S1 Pro" and the other is named "LE-Bose S1 Pro".  The "Bose S1 Pro" shows as headphones and the LE version shows the normal BlueTooth symbol.

ST, can you shed any light on why I'm seeing 2 devices per S1 Pro?

NOTE:  I'm using the same phone I've always used since I purchased the S1s.

Off topic a bit, and I think this was mentioned in another thread, but Bose should secure the BlueTooth connection a bit so that another user can't connect unintentionally or otherwise.  As an example, my phone shows what I believe is my neighbors TV as a bluetooth device.  Is it possible that it's pairing with my S1 Pro?

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

Hi, Dan.

KingBiscuit posted:
ST posted:

Hi Dan,

Try this (I just did)

  • Make sure that every device that may be connected to the S1 Pro devices has Bluetooth turned off
    • Everything that I can think of is turned off. 
  • On your tablet or phone (Settings), forget the S1 Pro devices
    • Went into my phone and "forgot" the S1 Pros
  • Delete the Bose Connect app
    • Removed the Bose Connect App from my phone
  • On your tablet or phone (Settings) Pair the S1 Pro devices to your tablet or phone
    • The first one I tried was Bose S1 Pro/LE-Bose S1 Pro.  I was able to connect to the device Bose S1 Pro (Headphone symbol).  When I tried to connect to the normal BlueTooth symbol named Le-Bose S1 Pro, it said connection rejected by LE-Bose S1 Pro.
    • I tried to connect to the second S1 Pro, but couldn't connect to either.  The Headphone Symbol one didn't give me an error, it just went onto my paired list, but didn't connect.  The "LE-Bose S1 Pro #3" with the BlueTooth symbol gave the the error, Connection rejected by LE-Bose S1 Pro #3.
  • On your tablet or phone Install the Bose Connect app
    • Installed the Bose Connect App on my phone
  • In the Bose Connect app, you should be able to connect to your S1 Pro devices now
    • I was unable to connect to eiter device.  I got the same messages and 3 strikes you're out as before.


ST



I don't remember seeing the LE-Bose S1 Pro when I've connected prior to this upgrade.  I don't understand why each S1 Pro shows up as 2 devices.  For example, one device is named Bose S1 Pro.  On my phone, in the BlueTooth settings, I see 2 different devices for this 1 S1 pro.  One named "Bose S1 Pro" and the other is named "LE-Bose S1 Pro".  The "Bose S1 Pro" shows as headphones and the LE version shows the normal BlueTooth symbol.

Are you using an Android phone?  I just pulled out my Android tablet and went through the steps.  I paired to "Bose S1 Pro" not "LE-Bose S1 Pro".



ST, can you shed any light on why I'm seeing 2 devices per S1 Pro?

LE stands for Low Energy, but for audio with the S1 Pro I use the non-LE connection. My Android tablet rejects the LE-S1 Pro connection.



NOTE:  I'm using the same phone I've always used since I purchased the S1s.

Off topic a bit, and I think this was mentioned in another thread, but Bose should secure the BlueTooth connection a bit so that another user can't connect unintentionally or otherwise. 



I did some testing today, with this latest firmware update the S1 Pro must be put in pairing mode (manually or using the Bose Connect app) before it can be discovered and paired.  This should solve the unintentional connection issues.



As an example, my phone shows what I believe is my neighbors TV as a bluetooth device.  Is it possible that it's pairing with my S1 Pro?

You can try clearing the Bluetooth device list on the S1 Pro systems before you take another run at connecting them to your phone. That will disconnect and forget all previous connections.

Press and hold the Bluetooth button. until it goes dark (about 7-10 seconds).

Then try pairing again.



ST

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

ST posted:

Hi, Dan.

KingBiscuit posted:
ST posted:

Hi Dan,

Try this (I just did)

  • Make sure that every device that may be connected to the S1 Pro devices has Bluetooth turned off
    • Everything that I can think of is turned off. 
  • On your tablet or phone (Settings), forget the S1 Pro devices
    • Went into my phone and "forgot" the S1 Pros
  • Delete the Bose Connect app
    • Removed the Bose Connect App from my phone
  • On your tablet or phone (Settings) Pair the S1 Pro devices to your tablet or phone
    • The first one I tried was Bose S1 Pro/LE-Bose S1 Pro.  I was able to connect to the device Bose S1 Pro (Headphone symbol).  When I tried to connect to the normal BlueTooth symbol named Le-Bose S1 Pro, it said connection rejected by LE-Bose S1 Pro.
    • I tried to connect to the second S1 Pro, but couldn't connect to either.  The Headphone Symbol one didn't give me an error, it just went onto my paired list, but didn't connect.  The "LE-Bose S1 Pro #3" with the BlueTooth symbol gave the the error, Connection rejected by LE-Bose S1 Pro #3.
  • On your tablet or phone Install the Bose Connect app
    • Installed the Bose Connect App on my phone
  • In the Bose Connect app, you should be able to connect to your S1 Pro devices now
    • I was unable to connect to eiter device.  I got the same messages and 3 strikes you're out as before.


ST



I don't remember seeing the LE-Bose S1 Pro when I've connected prior to this upgrade.  I don't understand why each S1 Pro shows up as 2 devices.  For example, one device is named Bose S1 Pro.  On my phone, in the BlueTooth settings, I see 2 different devices for this 1 S1 pro.  One named "Bose S1 Pro" and the other is named "LE-Bose S1 Pro".  The "Bose S1 Pro" shows as headphones and the LE version shows the normal BlueTooth symbol.

Are you using an Android phone?  I just pulled out my Android tablet and went through the steps.  I paired to "Bose S1 Pro" not "LE-Bose S1 Pro".



ST, can you shed any light on why I'm seeing 2 devices per S1 Pro?

LE stands for Low Energy, but for audio with the S1 Pro I use the non-LE connection. My Android tablet rejects the LE-S1 Pro connection.



NOTE:  I'm using the same phone I've always used since I purchased the S1s.

Off topic a bit, and I think this was mentioned in another thread, but Bose should secure the BlueTooth connection a bit so that another user can't connect unintentionally or otherwise. 



I did some testing today, with this latest firmware update the S1 Pro must be put in pairing mode (manually or using the Bose Connect app) before it can be discovered and paired.  This should solve the unintentional connection issues.



As an example, my phone shows what I believe is my neighbors TV as a bluetooth device.  Is it possible that it's pairing with my S1 Pro?

You can try clearing the Bluetooth device list on the S1 Pro systems before you take another run at connecting them to your phone. That will disconnect and forget all previous connections.

Press and hold the Bluetooth button. until it goes dark (about 7-10 seconds).

Then try pairing again.



ST

Thanks for the LE explanation.  The LE won't pair, no matter what.

 

I'm using a Google Nexus 5 Android Phone. 

  • I cleared the S1 as you suggested.  It WAS NOT paired in the BlueTooth settings on my phone. 
  • I started Bose Connect App.  It came up and recognized "Bose S1 Pro". 
  • I dragged the S1 picture down to connect. 
  • Bose Connect gave me a screen showing the S1 Control Panel and telling me to hold the BlueTooth button down for 2 seconds to put it in pairing mode.
  • I pushed the BlueTooth button for 2 seconds and Bose Connect switched from the screen it was on to the "Connecting" screen which shows the S1 Pro and says "connecting" under it.
  • Got the "Aw Snap" message signifying a failure.

 

I didn't have the Bose Connect App installed on my Android Tablet.  So, I installed it and was able to connect to both of my S1 Pros and rename them in the app.  That said, there must be a problem with something on my phone.  It always worked before but I haven't used the Bose Connect app in quite a while.   

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

Hey Dan,

It's great you got things connected on your Android tablet. Thanks for coming back to tell us. I'm sorry things didn't work on your phone.

ST

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

According to the Bose S1 Firmware History Wiki there is an update to the BT security in latest v7.1.5. Just as important there are enhancements to prevent premature battery drain. So an update we’ll worth considering.


S1 Pro Firmware History

S1 Pro Firmware Release Notes
Firmware versionDateNotes
7.1.5January 2020
  • Supports power saving features
  • Optimizes battery performance
  • Enhanced security for Bluetooth connection
7.1.12019Minor updates for compatibility with the Bose Connect App Version 9.x
7.1.0June 3, 2018

New features of v7.0.10 and Bose Connect App Version 6.1.0

  • Party mode TWS - true wireless stereo
  • Firmware updates wirelessly - Over the air using Bose Connect App
  • Bose Connect App
    • Battery charge level display
    • Volume Control
    • Device ID - Serial Number, date code, firmware version.
6.x.xJanuary 2018Factory installed
   
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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

Hi, CityFolk,

CityFolk posted:

@ST is there another Bose website that describes the contents of a S1 firmware release in more detail like a formal release notes?

The notes shown here (as you quoted in) S1 Pro System Updates are the official release notes. 

The Notes column on the site mentioned above is very high level.

They always are except where a change affects the way you interact with a device.  Bose has not published more details. 

For example, exactly what is the new security feature(s) in the BT connection?

The security enhancements do not require you to change the way you operate the S1 Pro, although some people have had to re-pair the Bluetooth connection to re-establish the pairing.

ST

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

ST posted:

Hi, CityFolk,

CityFolk posted:

@ST is there another Bose website that describes the contents of a S1 firmware release in more detail like a formal release notes?

The notes shown here (as you quoted in) S1 Pro System Updates are the official release notes. 

The Notes column on the site mentioned above is very high level.

They always are except where a change affects the way you interact with a device.  Bose has not published more details. 

For example, exactly what is the new security feature(s) in the BT connection?

The security enhancements do not require you to change the way you operate the S1 Pro, although some people have had to re-pair the Bluetooth connection to re-establish the pairing.

ST

But ST I’m curious as to what security enhancement means not how we interact with the BT connection. What’s goin on with this connection under this firmware that is more secure than before?

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

Hi CityFolk,

CityFolk posted:
ST posted:

Hi, CityFolk,

CityFolk posted:

@ST is there another Bose website that describes the contents of a S1 firmware release in more detail like a formal release notes?

The notes shown here (as you quoted in) S1 Pro System Updates are the official release notes. 

The Notes column on the site mentioned above is very high level.

They always are except where a change affects the way you interact with a device.  Bose has not published more details. 

For example, exactly what is the new security feature(s) in the BT connection?

The security enhancements do not require you to change the way you operate the S1 Pro, although some people have had to re-pair the Bluetooth connection to re-establish the pairing.

ST

But ST I’m curious as to what security enhancement means not how we interact with the BT connection. What’s goin on with this connection under this firmware that is more secure than before?

With this firmware update (7.1.5) it is now more difficult for someone to intercept an active Bluetooth connection. Because this pertains to security, I cannot go into more detail about how that was implemented.

ST

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

That’s all I’m asking ST. I don’t expect any trade secrets to be divulged or how it was implemented in underlying code. Having new security features to prevent intercepting a BT connection is much more informative than an overly broad based description of simply noting “security improvements”. Thanks for clarifying. 

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Re: S1 Pro Firmware Update 7.1.5 January 2020

This firmware update ruined my most used use case: Coming home with Spotify on Galaxy S10 on QC35, turning QC35 off and having the same music continue on S1 Pro.

 

It's just not possible anymore to auto reconnect. Most of the times even manual reconnect doesn't work without turning the S1 Pro off and manual connect again. Every day.

 

I'd drop all security to get that automation back. Is there a way, can I roll back the firmware?