Simon Patrick
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Stage lighting

I have spent a lot of time sifting through old (2013-2017) threads on this forum, reading about stage lighting.  I am wondering if anyone has any new suggestions on stage lighting for a solo acoustic/occasional duo on a very shallow stage.  I was hoping I could put something on the floor few feet in front of me as space in front of me is very limited. I am looking for something that is not overly bright...and I have heard that a red light is a good choice.  I am not particular on the dispersion of light. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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In the past I've used a couple of PAR38 cans with mounts and rigged the bracket with a threaded rod, nuts and washers and duct tape so I could set them inside the top tube of regular microphone stands.  Not too big a footprint with mic stands.

But alas -- it appears that I don't have any hollow top tube mic stands left so for my last little video project, I had to buy a couple of VERY cheap speaker stands and drill a hole in the top plug for my home-built posts.

I have extension cords with dimmers that I use for the lights.  Now one can get very cheap LED Par38, dimmable lights that work quite nicely...

I lucked out and someone gifted me many years ago with a whole bunch of gels.  I use a fairly dense flesh colored gel with just one light and can add a blue or red gel on the other when I use 2.

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If space permits, I usually place a 4 bar led color wash stand behind or slightly off to one side of the performers. A foot controller can be used to switch from static color wash, slow fades, or sound activated. For the front / face lighting I would suggest a few battery or ac powered pars or spots (white or warm white light) at 25-45 degrees off center (left and right) as high up as possible, could be mounted on a mic stand as Chet suggested.

If your standing, a uplight on the floor 2 feet in front might give you a bit of a scary look. Rememer the flashlight on the chin shining up the face 🙂

Lighting from both back and front gives more depth to the performers. 

 

 

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Good portable lighting designed for soloists and duets is one of the most overlooked and disappointing areas of stage equipment.

Years ago we worked gigs 5 or 6 nights a week and weeks at a time. Lighting setups that required hours were still feasible. Now with one nighters being the rule, hanging is not always possible and there is rarely room for tripod type stands on the small stages we get.

Even the small systems with foot controls are really designed to light a dance floor area, not a performer. If Mfgs. would include a "freeze" switch it would help.

Several years ago when LED stage lighting was taking over in the market I suggested that Bose might utilize the Model II base and speaker array columns to provide us with a usable stage lighting system that could include, color, movement, proper face lighting, all with foot control. Even though many companies use similar type of narrow, segmented fixtures, Bose is not inclined to get into the lighting business. I am surprised that none of the existing lighting companies have built something similar that is priced appropriately for the weekend warrior. 

I have looked at stand based, workplace LED lighting as fixtures that might be modified for color gels and switching, and utilized as stage lights, but for me it's not worth the hassle at this time. 

O..

 

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Oldghm
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Let me clarify what I mean about the use of Model II base and array columns being used for lighting. I am not suggesting a dual purpose speaker and light system.

I felt like the speakers could be replaced with LED lighting. The stand and speaker housing would make a proper lighting fixture with just a little thought and design work.

I would not recommend attaching lights to any of the speaker arrays.

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I carry a led bar and a light stand. If there is room up they go, if not then down on the floor. It's just ambiance, I only see it during breaks but ...I like it. I do prefer light from above but ya can't have everything....well...unless your single.

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I'm late seeing this, but wanted to chime in a bit.  Yes, lighting makes a huge difference.  Not only in my opinion but in comments from others.  But I use them a tad differently than most.  First, I only use Chauvet's Freedom or EZ models.  I have enough to set up without the control, plugs, cables, stands, etc.   I've found it creates an atmosphere and anticipation when I light what is about to happen, rather than focused on myself so much when performing. 

     I have an EZ par (battery powered)  focused on my two guitars used.  One on my Taylor T5 and the other on my Fender Acoustisonic Telecaster.   Another shoots straight up as a wash casting on the B2 Bass Module and the L1 Towers.   It simply lets folks know something special is coming.....and because they are battery only.....they are placed in well less than five minutes and all can be color changed by an IRC remote at any given time.  Not intrusive, can be done in the smallest of spaces.....and when I want to widen a bit more and do have the space where it is at it's most effective,  I use The Chauvet Freedom Strip for back washes.   Sure, they are more expensive than wired, cabled, etc.....but full lighting capability in small spaces?  No trusses or extra equipment?  Less than 5 minute hookup?   So worth it.     Tom

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Hi Tom,

Thanks for the ideas. Care to share a picture?

Cheers,

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Simon,

I went LED a few years back and I'm sequencing (DMXIS/Showbuddy) them with tracks and just love the new format of lower power draw, light weight nature of the fixtures, no heat at the end of the night, the cost effective price of the lights, and the overall versatility to create any color/strobe/movement.

Sounds like you are looking for a low key approach and use of them.  If you get a controller, like a Chauvet Obey 70, you should be good to get what you are looking for in any number of colors and light intensity with a couple of pars up front and in back.  My favorite combination is red with blue as there are wonderful highlights of each in shadowed areas of the stage.

Unless you are a whiz at fabrication techniques and could develop a cap that could fit aptly on top of an array and stably hold a configuration of light(s), I would recommend a couple of lights per an aluminum tripod for lights up front and same for behind you.  I think you'll find this will still take up relatively small amount of real estate on stage.

One equipment note, if you like a clean stage and great performance of your controller with the lights, I highly recommend going to a wireless system to replace the daisy chain cabling.  I'm using a cheap "Chinley" product of about 9 receivers and a couple of transmitters and these are gems to making your stage cleaner and easier to set up.

All the best in your efforts and endeavors.  Upgrading stage lighting, similar to upgrading to the BOSE method has extended my music career as the quality of the production is discernibly better than ever.  That alone helps to keep the "Music Jones" happening.

Sincerely,

Wes

PS - here's video:  https://www.facebook.com/Mille...eos/565420967247970/