jwbyrne
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Re: Which Noise Masking Sound is Best to Mask out Low Frequencies? Sleepbud 2's

My general go to sound file was Warm Static. I always used it at very low volume, like 1/3 volume, not so much to block sounds but more to smooth them out so there weren’t any harsh spikes waking me up. 

 

For really loud environments, finding the sound file closest in tone to the distracting noise worked pretty well for me. 

 

There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to volume in my experience.

 

Once you’re really cranking the volume, it becomes a battle between environmental noise and the sound coming from the Sleepbuds. 

 

At least the Sleepbuds sound files are more pleasant to listen to. 

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Re: Which Noise Masking Sound is Best to Mask out Low Frequencies? Sleepbud 2's

Thanks for the responses guys. Here is my feedback now after several days of use.

 

By far my favorite sound is “warm static”, as it provides a seamless white noise that does a very good job at masking seemingly all ambient annoying noise (traffic noise such as loud car exhausts, noisy people in adjacent hotel rooms, etc.)  none of the other sounds work for me, because they are either not white noise or I can detect a “loop” or “change in frequency” in them. Maybe Bose will Add an update for more true white noise Options, but so far I’m very pleased with “warm static”.

 

I will continue evaluating as I have a particularly annoying neighbor with a super loud exhaust that starts up early every morning,  but so far these to be doing the trick. They work much better than ear plugs and a standard white noise machine because they isolate your ear. I do however wish that we could turn the volume up higher. In my opinion it does not get loud enough, especially for situations where you may be awake and want it very loud for extra focus.

 

so far so good. I will report back when I have more time at home to evaluate their efficacy there. I welcome anyone to share their experiences!!

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An idea to make sounds customisable for the user - please post your comment for Bose to listen

I recently contacted the Bose Sleepbuds team with some suggestions,  it was told there are no plans to make any changes to the sounds as there is not enough feedback from users for them to include it in their update roadmap. I do find that difficult to believe, but will give Bose the benefit of the doubt as I know people may not be as vocal about it or make actual suggestions for improvements as they don’t think it will make a difference. From the interaction I have had with the Sleepbuds, I do genuinely get the feeling they will consider implementing our ideas if enough of us post and comment on ideas on this forum. 


My suggestions, as I realise uploading your own sounds is never going to be something they budge on, was to create a ‘Sleep Sounds Studio’ within the app. I have issues with all the current sounds as they mostly have elements (Bose call them ‘ingredients’) that audibly annoy me when I’m trying to sleep. The idea of the sound studio is that each sound would have an equaliser for its own components that would allow you to set how prominent each ‘ingredient’ is. Say a sound has 5 parts to it, each part would be separately adjustable until you had it just right for you (for Bose to deliver sounds and tell us “they’re fine as they are, we think we did a good job” (Bose didn’t say this, this is just how it feels) is disingenuous to their customers and almost reflects a lack of understanding on the issues people have with certain sounds when trying to sleep, yet we know they “get it” or we wouldn’t have this product at all, so I’m really hopeful they really will listen to us if we can all be vocal enough). Once the sound is right, and you’d need to use your own headphones to work on them for the equalising part, you would have the option to ‘export’ your personally equalised sound to a usable sleepbuds sound file (apparently the format is WAV, so can’t be that hard to create the file needed. To be clear, these are not your own sounds, but a personal adjustment on the sounds Bose provides. I think this is a perfect balance between customer experience and Bose maintaining control of the sounds available). All of this is done and saved in the app, at this point there is no issue with memory as the app has no size restrictions. 

 

To go a bit further with making the sleepbuds a more personal product, I also provided a secondary suggestion. The option to choose the size and length of sleep sounds they have available. At the moment, we can upload around ten sounds, which I assume means the buds must have a maximum capacity of around 3 minutes of sounds. We will all mostly only use one or two sounds, so the current restriction on forcing us to have ten sounds uploaded before we can delete seems an odd one. If we could clear the buds out of all sounds, my suggestion is we have the option to upload a long, medium or short sound loop instead of just the short option we have now. I’d much rather have one three minute sound I cannot hear repeat than ten short sounds, of which I only use two. The user then has the choice to use the product exactly as it is now, or to personalise it more with a range of personally curated sounds. This option would also have the same adjustments as my first suggestion, so we have the chance to have a single, three minute sound that works perfectly for the individual (or whatever the user chooses to do with the software). I made these suggestions as they are purely software changes, nothing in my suggestions would compromise the hardware experience, testing or battery life and is within the realms of being easily implemented if Bose took the time to understand the customer experience is not as great as it could be if they worked with us to develop a perfect product. 

So again, Bose already have my ideas, liked them, but dismissed them without other users providing similar feedback. If you’re reading this, then please provide your feedback on my suggestions. I think they’re the only way we can get a product that we have personal control over, which I don’t think is much to ask after paying £230. I find it a lot of money to be told that these are the sounds and that’s it. I don’t want to find a sound that I can live with (making a compromise should never be part of the customer experience), I want to have the option to make the sound that works perfectly for me and for everyone else to have that option too.

 

I hope you like these ideas and really do hope we can get enough feedback in this thread to have the Sleepbuds team start to work with us all. 

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Re: An idea to make sounds customisable for the user - please post your comment for Bose to listen

Great idea! I would be happy if they just started with a simple pre-processor equalizer so I could compensate for the decline in my high frequency hearing.

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Re: An idea to make sounds customisable for the user - please post your comment for Bose to listen

I should have added that it could run in the app before the sounds were uploaded. I might be able to hear the birds tweeting in the rain forest 🙂

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Re: New sounds for Sleepbuds II

I received my new Sleepbuds II today. They are currently charging for the first time. I am pretty exited to try them out tonight, I really hope they don't disappoint. Stay tuned.

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Re: An idea to make sounds customisable for the user - please post your comment for Bose to listen

Really happy to provide feedback to support your suggestions. I haven't ordered Sleepbuds II yet, waiting to see what users think as I'm concerned that the return process might be difficult given that there are no stores in Brisbane.  I exchanged 4 pairs of the originals at my local store - always an easy process and done with a smile. Regarding your specific suggestions and feedback about the various dings/chimes and subtle background noises - i found i could hear a pattern of "chimes" (difficult to describe) that were certainly not supposed to be part of the masking sounds on some of the choices in the library.  They drove me nuts and I could really only listen to very few options.  I didn't mention it to Bose as I thought they'd think I was crazy! I hope they listen to the feedback and that more people speak up. Thanks for starting the process.

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Re: An idea to make sounds customisable for the user - please post your comment for Bose to listen

yes, yes, yes, MILION TIMES YES! 

 

I have Sleepbuds delivered just yesterday, but Warm Static sound is not the same as with Gen 1 Sleepbuds so I googled how to fix it and found your post. Your idea is just BRILLIANT. Just to prove how good it is: I saw it yesterday's night on my cellphone. Copied the link and put to my to-do list to register today on my PC and write this comment. Yes I registered to this forum JUST BECAUSE OF THIS BRILLIANT IDEA. 

 

Bose Support has a really weird assumption that if users don't ask for it they wouldn't want it at all. If Henry Ford had the same assumption we'd be driving horses till now and not to mention Steve Jobs and idea of smartphone. 

 

Bose Support: normally a user does not go online to write suggestions for the product - that's given. So if you're really interested in user's feedback just give people a chance to participate in the surveys via email / Sleep App where you ask people to vote how much they would be interested in proposed features this month. Each volunteer could have e.g. 10 votes each month. That way you'd quickly see how is the interest in the users group. I would vote all my 10 votes this month for this AMAZING feature. 

 

Next: I didn't go to google yesterday with the idea of this feature. But once I saw it I knew this is a pure gold. So don't expect everyone is genius like the guy who wrote this suggestion. 

 

Peace 🙂

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Sound Library Options - limiting

I received the sleep buds II as a gift.  I really love the concept and they help mask my partner’s snoring however I am finding the sound library extremely limiting and frankly annoying. The sound loops are way too short.  In addition the frequencies bother me.  I wish binaural beats was available. Adding some 432 MHz music.  Maybe even something completely neutral.  Anything with water repeating triggers my bladder. Storm and rain trigger my anxiety. I am so frustrated because I really want to use these but the sounds are causing me headaches.  Is anybody else experiencing this?  I am not a picky person but the only sound that I can barely tolerate is the outboard one. 

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Re: Sound Library Options - limiting

Hi, I’ve shared similar thoughts with Bose directly and made suggestions on the software side in the app that would make many of us more satisfied with how we can use the sleepbuds instead of us feeling we have bought a £230 product we have zero control over how we use the content. I’m trying to gather a bit of momentum and discussion from users in my thread so Bose can see all the comments in one place, so if you’re happy to, please take a look at my thread and provide any feedback you might have:

 

https://community.bose.com/t5/Sleepbuds/An-idea-to-make-sounds-customisable-for-the-user-please-post...