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yesterday
This functionality which is obviously meant to provide Radio service support where not present on TuneIn service has just been added as a new option on the Settings menu of the Soundtouch app, Perhaps I will try this at the weekend.
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Sunday
Not everyone has the same opinion as you. I have a Soundtouch 300 which is used almost everyday and considering to get another one. if you read the previous comments they suggest Airplay is essential (it is not) if like me you connected a Mac Mini to the HDMI in port (which the Soundbar 700 does not have) this works very well. If really want airplay find an Airport Express (if you still can). as for Apple Music, you can always play from the Mac or send via Bluetooth or use Spotify instead which I do. Ok I admit I did not get the Subwoofer but I do not need it. i wonder why there are so many people listed as starters who say bad things about the products.
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3 weeks ago
Check with the Soundtouch app that your ST300 has 20.0.6 firmware (November). I suspect your problem might be caused by interference from other devices, it should not be from firmware update as there as no update this month. if needed try the instructions in the user guide on page 19 or if that does not work than 43 of the user guide and repeat.
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3 weeks ago
Thank you for confirming this. However please confirm why the support page for Soundtouch 300 for several countries says - 2018 suggesting that Soundtouch 300 would not be sold in 2019, I hope that is not the case as we intend to get another one to complete our setup.
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4 weeks ago
There is a youtube video that discusses this topic is depth but everyone has their own opinion as ti why they selected Bose. My choices started with replacing a bluetooth headphone that would not charge and which was hurting my head to wear for long periods. I first tried to Sony MDR 1000x and then the QC35, after watching videos on both. i selected QC35 as it felt much better on the head and the musid seemed more enhanced to me, soundthing I linked when comparing something on CD with that from a Minidisc to to my ears had sounded better. My wife selected the Soundtouch 20 which as small, looked good, was not expensive and did what we needed. Following that we decided to think about replacing our old home cimena, whch was connected to my mac and which did not support HDMI sound input. i considered Pioneer (also big) and even Naim but we decided in the Soundtouch 300 it is blended in with look of the TV easily taking up less space and we could then get the multi room feature working as well. We would consider getting another Soundtouch 300 to complete our setup. Of note is the power usage topic, our old home cimena used input power of 150w, the Soundtouch 20 is 90w and I was amazed when I found out that the Soundtouch 300 was just 65w and sounded much stronger due to the special technologies that Bose has used. i will be ignoring the Soundbar 700 as it is not compatible with the Soundtouch 300 we already have and also heard yet another story about a gray parrot ordering from Amazon when the owner was not around. As for Speaker 500, same reason except that it looks like a larger version of the Revolve. We did not make up on mind on Portable speakers yet, the Resokve seems too expensive. For our car, we have an old Mirrrorlink unit which still sounds ok, but but can Bose produce make a system that can be fitted to existing cars as we might be interested since we cannot afford a Mazda.
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12-16-2018
02:27 AM
Your conments appear to suggest you made your CD collection available for use with the ITunes match service. That service as I recall, works only with supported Apple Devices and uses the M4P protected music format rather than the M4A format, which mean soundtouch cannot play back unless via Bluetooth. If the files were imported i to a local ITunes library first (quite likely) then you may have local m4a copies that the Soundtouch can play and you can either install the Soundtouch software on the Mac and make the Itunes library available while that computer is on. iTunes needs to be set to maintain an XML version of the library file and share it with other applications for this to work. Or you can get NAS storage that supporta DNLA (I use WD My Cloud ex2 ultra) and tell the Soundtouch app about that whidh is the approach I find the best. For best results network your Soundtouch devices via ethernet rather than Wifi and your speaker finding problems will go away. if you have the space use Apple Lossless format which Soundtouch supports.
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12-02-2018
05:18 AM
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iTunes music may be played with Soundtouch as follows (not listed in order) 1. The sound from music and other media on your Ipad can be played via Bluetooth. 2. Non protected Itunes music (m4a) can be played from NAS library that has ITunes server or from a computer that has a local Itunes library exported as XML and Soundtouch software installed and running on it. Notes: If playing from Itunes library on a Mac or Windows PC the Soundtouch background app needs to be left running. I used a Mac Mini in this manner until I got a NAS. The NAS I use is WD My Cloud Ex2 ultra and this works great with Soundtouch. Only old Soundtouch hardware supports AirPlay but an update for Airplay 2 is promised. If you have a Bose Soundbar that has optical input and an Airport Express with 7.8 firnware installed, you may be able to add Airplay 2 support via this approach. The Soundtouch app looks great on the Ipad and is used to control the Play all feature which also works with Bluetooth sources and it does not have to remain running, it just acts as a control. The apple music service is not available for native use from Soundtouch products and is quite a common request. Music extracted by Itunes and saved in Apple Lossless are compatible with Soundtouch. For the best experience use a NAS with your Soundtouch networked devices control it from your Ipad. In my view Soundtouch 300 music playback is noticeably better than Soundtouch 20 and reconmended. The most recent update does not impact ITunes playback, on the subject of Internet Radio however there any many comments.
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11-30-2018
10:08 AM
You do not need to uninstall but if you reinstall without unibstall you may found you end up with 2 or more sets of Bose entries listed in the startup items tab of the user accounts and everything will continue to work as long as you remember to run the install manually,each time the app says there is an update seems this a fault with the software updater itself which needs an update and probably relates to recent security updates to MacOS that may have broken it.
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11-30-2018
09:59 AM
There should be no association between the connectivity inidcator and the AdaptIQ prodedure ending unless connectity to the bass speaker was lost due to interference from something else or dislodged the cable from the soundbar to the bass speaker if you used one, if needed try pairing the bass speaker again before you run the AdaptIQ. The Soundtouch indicator may also go orange if you do not have anything playing for a while as a reminder. The TV will turn in the soundbar automatically if connected via HDMI and the default CEC is enabled. If can auto turn on if set to detect a sound via the optical after about 2 seconds if the standby feature on the power button was set.
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11-21-2018
05:37 PM
I tested this on my Soundtouch 300 and Soundtouch 20 systems when I used the Update All option on the Soundtouch IOS app. I am pleased to confirm that Play All was not affected by the 19th Nov update which means it works for me. You will need to respecify login details for Spotify the first time you restart the Soundtouch app after the units update, but only once. Playback from NAS is also working with the 19th Nov firmware.
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11-21-2018
02:09 AM
I will try the given suggestion. As I reminder, the Mac Soundtouch app was never un the Mac app store, so you download ir directly from the Bose site, check the support pages for the Soundtouch for the link in question and I will do likewise. if this does not work, it will try to restore it badk fron my Time Capsule so I suggest you make sure you have a Time Machine backup completed first in case you wondered disabling Anti Virus/Firewall did not affect this issue but you may need to all Firewall exceptions for Soundtouch after it is reinstalled (if you non Apple firewall)..
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11-20-2018
03:47 AM
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On My Macbook Air 2017 (High Sierra, 10.13.6, 2018 005 update), the newly provided Soundtouch app update does not install, sequence of events as below. Start existing Soundtouch app, and App Update Required is shown, select Update app. Downloading occurs, Installing starts, when promoted to make changes enter your account password and the updater immediately closes. To use the existing Soundtouch app select cancel at the prompt where the Mac says Soundtouch app wants to make changes, ignore the oh oh message and continue as normal. Both my Soundtouch 20 and Soundtouch 300 applied their updates with the IOS app with minor issues: Soundtouch 300 flashed 2 orange lights after the update until the remote was pressed at which point it could be found and controlled normally. Soundtouch IOS app prompts for Spotify account details which were previously saved. Update (21st Nov) Downloading the Soundtouch app directly from the Support downloads section for a Soundtouch product and running the installer without attempting to remove the application has been confirmed to work, Just remember to stop the Soundtouch Music Server on the Mac first before to run the Installer.
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11-07-2018
02:19 AM
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I speak as someone with both 2010 and 2014 Mac Mini models and I will list what should be possibe for almost every model here: 1. Wave Systems without Soundtoucb base unit, use 3.5mm audio cable (2 channel) to aux input and expect some initial delay that will be ok for music, but may show lipsync issues. 2. Soundtouch Wave, as per 1 but Bluetooth works much better and does not have then lipsync issue. 3. Soundtouch 20, 30, use Bluetooth as per 2. 4. Home speaker 500, as per 3. 5. Soundtouch 300, use HDMI connection from the Mac to HDMI input (enable in the Soundtouch app) and set Audio Midi settings to 8 channel, 24 bit, 48khz, 7.1 surround for best results. You can also use the optical input but you need small adapter for the square ended optiical cables at the Mac Mini end of the lead and output is limited to 5.1. On either optical or HDMI, ITunes TV and Movie content may be played but see later note. Bluetooth can also be used but this is inferior. 6. Soundbar 500, connect via Bluetooth or optical as per 4 but this unit check with Bose if you intend to get one to confirm the best settings as Dolby and DTS decoding is absent. 7. Soundbar 700, use HDMI arc via TV if supported, optical if not and and Bluetooth as last resort. You might be aboe to use HDMI here if you have a matrix switch unit but propably not a good idea. To make best use of this you need top to find a TV that supports HDMI 2.2 (specifically HDMI e-arc) however almost nothing does yet so be prepared to wait several months before replacing your TV. If you are playing Itunes media that has surround content such as Movies and TV series only enable the ‘prefer ac3’ option if you are connected via optical. I have sound that some games are not conpatible with setting Surround sound on the audio Mini options (everything else works fine, the games in Queston are Doom 3 and Quake 4 from Aspyr when you need to force 2 channel use or I found gets a nasty chopping noise from Soundtouch 300, not a fault with the unit, its a known issue with the game).
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11-05-2018
03:27 PM
I suspect the best solution for you may be the Soundtouch sa5 and related speaker package as that is intended for larger more open areas. It would help the Moderators if you mentioned the approximate size and shape of the garage. Soundtouch 10 is for kitchen use, 20 for usual rooms and 30 for larger enclosed rooms and for your garage its propably too big for the ST30s waveguide (or any Soundbar).
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11-05-2018
03:01 PM
Fron the brief description it is not clear from what date your problem started to occur but careful check when your ST300 applied the 19.0.13 update and when your TV last applied its own software update. At a guess I suspect the HDMI CEC/ARC behaviour on your TV has been updated by an uodae it received, the Soundtouch update i mentioned should not have changed that aspect. Check the HDMI CEC setting, in the Soundtouch app, select the Speaker (not setup Speaker), cog wheel, Advanced Setup, HDMI CEC and check what setting you have there, if you have ‘Default On’ try setting Alternate On (which allows Soundtouch to turn off with the TV but using the TV remote will not control the soundbar and configure yur TV setting for the ST300 remote instead, check the book of codes included in the box). I had similar issues to what you mentioned when I set fully automatic HDMI CEC on a Samsung Blu Ray player as the TV and play would fight to control each others devices would switch off autonatically after switching on etc). You can also try a different HDMI cable just in case. If nothing else works turn off HDMI CEC on the Soundtouch app and consider connecting via the optical cable supplied. Powering off your Soundbar frequently should be avoided where possible as it is designed to remain in standby node so a music source can activate it. If you configure the auto on feature, power cycling the soundbar seems to force that setting to be lost.
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10-31-2018
03:43 AM
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The speed loss is more likely caused by other wifi nearby Wifi networks, as Soundtouch does not create its own Wifi unless reset back to the setup mode. Make sure that your Airport network is set to use separate ssid for the 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks and if want to continue to use wifi made sure the Soundtouch is only told about once of them to avoid automatic switching if the speed drops below 10mb/s. If you used multiple wifis or mixed mode (automatic switching) after setting the airport as indicated about, reset the Soundtouch and reselect the Wifi you want it to remain using (use the 5ghz in the devices are in the same room and less than 10 metres away otherwise use the 2.4ghz one). If you are able to do so connect your Soundtouch 300 by directly to your Time Capsule (or Airport Extreme) as I have done which disable the wifi and enable you find the Soundbar every time with the Soundtouch app (unless the IP address was changed, in whidh case power cycle the Soundbar). Usual cat 5 utp cable is sufficient unless the unit is more then than say 5 metres away in which case consider sstp (shielded cable), cat 6 cable can also be used, Soundtouch networks do not require Gigabit ethernet, if you are using Airport Express and installed the latest firmware you can enable Airplay 2 support by connecting the optical output (you may need an adapter) unless you are already using it. Do not connect the Soundtouch to the wan point of your Airport device.
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10-25-2018
03:22 PM
Siundtouch 20 and Soundtouch 30 speakers are stereo speakers and in the case of the Soundtoucb 30 also with built in waveguides to bounce the sound around. if you are indeed hearing mono sound, check you are not playing a mono source, that you can hear sound from both sides of the front of the unit, that you did not place the units in a corner facing away from you, also check how far between the front of the unit and the wall behind you. Soundtouch units are intended for typical domestic use, so they will not sound as good if used in a very large area where the walls are too far away where it might wrongly sound similar to mono if you have a room large big enough to have echoes especially from large structures. if you want to have two or more units play the same music/sound you need to use the Play All feature from the Soundtouch app when the units are networked together either via ethenet cable to a router or same wifi. Play all can use internet radio, bluetooth, local network storage or steaming services initiated from one of the devices. By stereo pairing I assume you mean pairing two mono units via bluetooth to create a pair and that is only required on the Soundtoucb 10, Resolve etc.
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10-10-2018
12:53 PM
Sorry you are not happy. it is possible to playback Itunes in full qualify if you olay it from a Mac and connect to Soundbar (st300 in my case) using either optical or HDMI. Airplay support may be added next year but or will not sound as good. If you have one of the few people who can properly hear hires audio and then afford it there are other products for you, i tried the Naim MuSo and It sounded very good but not that much better than my ST300, I would rather get another ST300.
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10-03-2018
01:37 PM
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Decide like this. i want to use the speaker outside, Revolve Plus. i want to make my own recordings outside, Bose S1. i want to fill a small, medium room and want Alexa and do not have any other soundtouch products, Home Speaker 500 I want to fill a small or medium room and do not need Alexa, Soundtouch 20 i want to fill a larger room, Soundtouch 30. i want to fill a seriously big room and have separate speakers Soundtouch SA5. i have to use existing Stereo and want to use it in a multi room setup, Soundtouch Wireless link adapter. i also want to connect a TV and use Alexa, Soundbar 500 or 700 depending if you need Surround or not and do not have any Soundtouch products, i also want to connext a TV, will use Amazon echo for Alexa if needed and may have other Soundtouch products, Soundtoucb 300. i want to blanket my large room with sound, connect several devices and money is no object and occasionaly play music Lifestyle 650.
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10-01-2018
03:54 PM
As this is a high end Blu Ray player for best result connect HDMI output into the HDMI input for the ST300 and enable that input using the Soundtouch app so video will pass through the Soundtouch so Dolby / DTS 7.1 formats can be decoded by the Soundbar. Note that the Soundtouch does not support the object sound formats provided by your Player, in this mode Netflix output from the player should work in Dolby 5.1 and Blu Ray in 5.1 or 7.1 depending on the disc. You can also connect to Blu Ray player to the TV and connect using optical cable from TV to the Soundbar and setting the TV output not to use PCM, ideally Bitstream. However connecing in this manner is not as perfect. Bluetooth connection to the Soundbar is intended for Music playback and the soundbar does not support High definition codecs available for your player, use that in conjunction with your phone (assuming Android Oreo), HD formats from Phone to your Blu Ray player and standard definition pair with the Soundbar.
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09-28-2018
04:09 PM
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The sound setting that is best you need will depend on how you are connected, HDMI arc or optical. When connected with HDMI the TV and Soundbar agree what formats they support. When connected with optical you preselect the formats, so bitstream is preferred to pass whatever format is received without the TV decoding it and letting the Soundbar do that. I prefer sound in this order DTS, then Dolby and lastly PCM (DTS seems more loud). if you set the format then the source is converted by the TV to the selected format and passed to the Soundbars as agreed automatically or as set if connected via optical. For Bose Soundbar 700 there is no HDMI input port so if you want 7.1 sound that is only possible when connected via HDMI on TV with HDMI e-arc (a very new standard). The sources you mentioned tend to use Dolby 5.1 or PCM. If you connect a Blu Ray player or Game Console, or computer via HDMI to the TV, prefer to set DTS (5.1) on the TV and the player, console will auto detect this, for computers you need to set it otherwise you tend to get PCM. When I got my Bose Soundbar (Soundtouch 300 in my case) it took me about 2 days off and on to found out what sounded best so be prepared to experiment.
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09-20-2018
11:06 AM
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Sadly this question was already answered elsewhere in this forum where it was stated that the new home products do not interact with the soundtouch products despite their similar characteristics. This leaves the following options: 1. Get the Home Speaker 500 but use it separate from the ST300. 2. Get the Speaker 500 and also a Soundbar 700 - but again they won't talk with the ST300 appearently. If you do not need surround sound decoding then Soundbar 500. 3. Get a Soundtouch 30 instead of Home Speaker 500 - this should sound better but you lose the colour display and the built in Alexa but you could also get an Amazon Echo of course. I notice that the it seems the inside of the Soundbar 700 and ST300 at almost the same - the only differences are ports being moved to the back of the unit in the Soundbar 300,removal of the HDMI in port. Obviously I would choose option 3 - for those without any existing Soundtouch devices the choice is obvious 1 or 2. The question is simple - how much do you need Alexa?
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09-19-2018
06:50 PM
I am using My Cloud ex2 ultra with ST300 and Soundtouch 20. I found a program for Android that you may be able to use to test if DNLA support for your Soundtouch network is workinq as expected. Look for Hi Fi Cast Music Player and check that your Soundtouch can be found as a playback device. You may be able to use this to play back from an Android device directly to the Soundtouch under wifi, and select the Nas using that and set Soundtouch as playback deviceI tested that works, no IOS verson of this software. If you cannot find the Sountouch it means you may have a firewall/router issue as often upnp can be blocked or disabled. As it was working earlier and stopped working, check if your network hardware and that do not have any special characters in the file names that may affect the file name searching. Correct any abnormal filenames and rebuilt the media database on the NAS. Make sure that you did not add any media recently that uses variable bit rates as such files have compatibility for many devices but play ok on Computers. As for your Nas it seems the last firmware for My Book Live as in 2015 and it was replaced by My Cloud/My Cloud Mirror and the My Cloud Ex2/ex4 series. It may be time to switch to a more recent WD My Cloud device and connect your old unit to the USB port on the newer unit.
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09-19-2018
01:57 PM
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So my QC35 was working perfectly with Ipad pro 9.7 on IOS 11.4.1 and then I installed IOS 12. In short, wait.... I have experienced Bluetooth connection drops with Skype, Viber and during Music playback and loss when more than 1 app is open. These are apple problems, not Bose, my QC35 is on 2.5.3. Now the bluetoouth is as unstable as Android 5.1, nice feature. So for good sound, do not install IOS 12 yet, as I used ITunes with Mac to apply the upgrade I would be able to downgrade and I will soon.
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09-11-2018
06:43 PM
It seems almost everywhere you check the Bass speaker for the Soundtouch 300 costs the same as the ST300 unit itself, why is that? The room where we have our ST300 clearly does not seem to need it, so I am just curious? Whch makes the better sound improvement the surround speakers or the bass unit?
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09-11-2018
05:57 PM
Much of this thread relates to Airplay 2 which for those with Multiple Soundtouch devices may not provide an new features, just a wifi altenetive to using Bluetooth. I am not sure if Airplay 2 provides multi channel support but of course, its better to connect to Mac Mini or Apple TV eith Optical/HDMI. I would have to see an update of the Soundtouch devices which features such as these: Gapless playback, 192khz flac/alac support. 802.11ac/ax wifi support, gibabit ethernet support, Bluetooth 5 support. Extra HDMI inputs at the back of the unit, the layout used by Soundbar 700 avoids the awkward sideways recessed connections on the ST300. New high end soundbar with extra 2 up facing speakers at the ends and 2 in the middle and Atmos, DTS X decoding, appearance should look similar to Soundbar 700 just longer and spaces in the glass top for the up firing speakers, As for Soundtouch 20, 30 the replacement should look similar to the Soundtouch 30 but with the Colour display from the Speaker 500, same network updates as above, it may be nice an add an optical input and Airplay support so all bases are covered. The soundtouch 10 replacement should look like a smaller version of the Soundtouch 20. For me, the gapless playback is more important than Airplay and the soundtouch line should not integrate voice service unless it can be physically turned off. i would not use an Amazon Alexa device device even it it was free (same goes for Siri and Cortana), I do not need them and do not want to risk orders being placed by accident etc. Comments make regarding the software seen harsh but its reasonable to expect limited resources, so I expect newer products and updates after the Home products have been lauched. The soundtouch product line is mature but not dead and I have discussed getting another ST300 recently as I am happy with the sound, if a soundtouch 900 (object sound product) would appear I may be interested in that if some of the backward compatibility issues worked out even if it means turning off some features via the app. On the whole I prefer an established product line to ine that thats new and full of issues. The final step is to bring back Soundtouch portable with some features from the above to complete against devices such as BW zeppelin.
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09-07-2018
02:58 AM
If you experience frequent power interruptions, you need to use deadicated UPS units to protect your Bose and your network requirement from even a brief interruption or other power issues that may affect it. If you have a NAS that should also be connected to the UPS and some models can support receiving network UPS notifications allowing for clean shutdown in the event of prolonged power loss (low battery). After temporary loss of power or internet the Soundbar may complain about this in the manner you said. Do not connect a TV to a UPS as the power draw may signifiicantly shorten the battery operation time for a UPS. My own setup (st300, st20, My Cloud NAS, Apple Airport routers) had several storm related brief power interruptions lasting just under 1 second and it takes the network several minutes to fully recover without such units. At the very least connect your sensitive requirement using surge protected sockets as I have. if your use cable or DSL based internet provider, remember they had also be affected by power interruptions so if that becomes too much of a problem you may want to consider using a 4g router/modem. I use Hauwei b525s as my backup internet and that provides wifi and 4 network ports.
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09-04-2018
05:39 PM
So it seems you have the following issues 1. Connection issues from Soundtouch app to Soundtouch units 2. Getting play all to work. You mentioned having a TV and an Imac Try this. So firstly if you have only single wifi unit connected to your internet get a smaller unit to extend your network, for example I use to Airport Time capsules and an Airport Express, the where the wifi extended between them. There are many issues that can affect Soundtouch units when they are in Wifi mode many of which are related to the positioning of the units, of the routers, thickness of walls and interference from other homes nearby. Connect your Soundtouch 30 and Soundetouch 300 units via network cable to the nearest router, if the routers are in the same Wifi, this will make your Soundtouch app find the units quickly and Play all to behave. Connect your TV to the Soundtouch 300 via HDMI or better still using the optical cable. as for the Imac you can connect it t the Soundtouch via Bluetooth as using the Aux socket on the Soudntouch 30 may introduce a slight delay in playback. If you want to play back your Movie, TV iTunes purchases get an Apple TV and connectbthat to the Soundtouch 300s HDMI in port and enable it using the Soundtouch app. The imac will support multi channel sound playback if an optical cable is used in the headphone outout socket just as the Mac Mini but it will depend of which Soundtouch nearby if its the Soundtouch 300 your may be in luck. To remove Mac apps, delete the applications own folder from the applications folder or run any deinstall app that is made available I have the soundtouch app installed on Mac and Several IOS devices.
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09-02-2018
01:01 PM
Both options will work but it is likely from what you said that the hdmi arc may on your TV convert 5.1 to 2 channel sound. For best results use option 1 and set your xbox to hdmi audio. You can connect the Xbox one x to the TV and optical to the Soundbar and if doing so use the bitstream option on the Xbox. Option 1 will allow 7.1 source to be decoded directly by the soundbar and video will be passed through, this supports 4k content passthrough. The 2 devices Xbox and ST300 will negoiate what formats they support which does not happen with bitstream is selected. As I know ST300 does not support object based sound formats. insggets this posted is moved to the Soundtouch section as this section is for the Soundbar 500 and 700 that are unreleased. There is no function of Dolby Atmos or DTS X support for those products either as that requires a design change for upfacing speakers. Enjoy.
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08-30-2018
08:45 AM
@bmhamberg Just because this other product line is out, there is nothing here that gives anything else with ST300 reason to sell it. Soundbar 700 is essentially the same unit hardware wise but with some features removed, but easily to connect the HDMI as it is not sideways and recessed You said you got yours cheaply, mine is less than 2 months old and cost 677 Euro and I will not be rid of it as it replaces an old home non Bose unit that I had for around 10 years and I am happy with how it sounds. In 10 years time, nobody will even remember Alexa. Bose should maintain the Soundtouch line especially due to compatibiliy with the liftstyle range. The suggestions made earlier to merge the software lines do make sense, in truth Airplay 2 is not that important for Soundtouch users but I noticed that my Airport express just get an update to support it. Most of the improvements needed are incremental but there is scope the new Soundtouch product updates and even a high end soundbar having up facing soeakers for object based sound.
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