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12-04-2016
a week ago
Morlock
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a week ago
@rickatk wrote: I am not sure ADAPTiQ discriminates against non Bose speakers. In certain circumstances you may be correct. If you plugged in non bose speakers into the wireless modules the SB700 would detect the rears and run adaptIq for the full system. If he has rears and a Bass plugged into an amplifier before the signal goes into the SB700, then AdaptIQ would run as if there was only the soundbar in the mix (and there is no way for it to output any test sounds to those speakers anyway). In essence it assumes that the surround and bass all come from the soundbar and runs adaptiq to suit that.
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2 weeks ago
To answer the main point of your initial question (and I think everything else revolves around that) is that if the Bose surround speakers are not attached there is no way to turn off the surround coming from the bar. The option to turn off in the app only appears if the rears are connected, and the result would be the same as not having the rears connected (and the same for the bass). As well as that the auto calibration it does would be useless when matching it up with 3rd party bass/amp combination. There may be a solution, but it would still involve the bose surround speakers. You said you don't want to run power to the rears, but can run the speaker cables. My suggestion would be to lengthen (snip and join) the surround speaker wires and have the power units near the bar where you probably already have power. So they are still wireless from the bar to the power packs (if only a short distance) and then longer speaker wires to the surrounds. As for quality - I beleive it is one of, if not, the best soundbars out there. However people have expectations and most people getting a soundbar are moving down from a full system they had previously so are often dissapointed. I would compare this favourably to most 5.1 systems at the similar price range, but Bose has thier LIfestyle range which is about performance. Most soundbars (even with rears) don't improve on the sound going into it. So if you play HD videos they sound great. If you play a movie on Free to air it will likely come out in stereo rather than surround. And it's small things like that that the Lifestyles improve on.
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07-29-2018
12:19 AM
The app isn't a mandatory, it just helps with a couple of things. You can still connect a phone/tablet through the normal BT settings process on the phone. You will then have all the normal uses of the headphones (Music, phonecalls, noise cancelling) You can still update the headphones by connecting to a computer by USB (the website is btu.bose.com) You won't be able to access google assistant through the action button (action button will change N/C level), but you can still access your assistant through holding the multi-function button. You need the app to change the auto off timer, setup up your assistant, manage multiple connections easier and a couple of other features.
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06-04-2018
07:21 PM
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It may be that it's not actually dead. THe Minis do have a "shipping mode" that it enters if not used for a period of time (I think about two weeks) to conserve battery life. To turn it back on it needs to be plugged into power, which seems to be what you are experiencing. To check the battery holding charge, the next time it happens, plug it in and turn it on. Then unplug it and see what colour the light is flashing. If red then it's not holding charge either, if blue or white then it was probably just in shipping mode.
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06-04-2018
07:18 PM
It's less about the apps and more about the wireless technology. SoundTouch speakers are primarily Wifi because it is more stable for multiple products and has a longer range and works better through obsticles such as walls. BT is limited in range, so multi-room becomes a problem. So the SoundLinks run off BT only (and if it had Wifi, you would probably have a poor battery life) and while speakers like the revolve can link to a second SoundLink device it is about getting more sound in the one room. There are a couple of options for SoundTouch outdoors. The more permanent solution is using the SA-5 amplifier with outdoor speakers (like the 251s) that are permanently set up outside. The other option depends on having power where you want it. A SoundTouch 20 is generally small enough to move outdoors and indoors when necessary, but you still need a power cable where you want it. You could also use the SoundTouch Wireless adaptor connected to portable speaerks, but you still need power for that anyway.
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06-04-2018
07:12 PM
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That depends on what "serial number" you are looking at. If it's the one on the side of the box or when you connect it to the Bose Connect app (look under "about"), then the two headphones should have two distinct numbers. Some people check the 4 digit number found under the rubber tip. These could be the same code on both headphones (they use that as a kind of serial number as you can't fit a long S/N on the buds themselves, but all it really tells Bose is the model and when it was manufactured). While it's not flawless, some of the telltale signs of non-genuine BT headphones from Bose are: Does it connect up to the Bose connect App? Can you run an update from btu.bose.com? If it can't do those it's unlikely to be genuine. Other than that, contact Bose in your country and they can give you a better idea.
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05-29-2018
10:15 PM
Not as far as I'm aware. the 135 needs the console to play anything.
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05-29-2018
09:33 PM
Fingers crossed it may be a simple solution. If the light is flashing white then it is trying to connect to your old network. You need t put it into setup mode to connect the new network. Hold down the "preset 2" and "volume Down" buttons and you should see on the screen "hold for setup" and a countdown from 5. ONce complete the screen displays setup and the light should flash orange (I think). At this stage it should be transmitting it's own wifi signal and you should be able to set it up as you did the first time.
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05-29-2018
09:23 PM
As far as I am aware any BD player will play CDs. There may be limitations depending on the format of CDs (mp3 Cds etc), but i'd be surprised if this is the case. Setup wold be very easy (press setup on the remote, add device and follow on screen instructions. It will even tell you where to plug it in), then just insert the cd and play.
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05-29-2018
09:17 PM
Because the QC25 are not BT there is no Bose app for it. As an equaliser you would have to use a third party one. Even the Bose app does not let you adjust equaliser settings so it would be no use in that aspect anyway. As for the remote, two questions will help. What device do you use, and is the QC25 you have the apple of android version (you can tell because the android version has either an android symbol or an S on the remote). If you have an apple plugged into an android phone (or visa-versa) you can play/pause, but not adjust volume. If that's not the issue, you probably need to get the headphones (more likely the cable) checked.
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05-29-2018
09:08 PM
I think on the latest firmware it automatically detects, but if the firmware is slightly older you can force the detection. In the setup you can press the teletext (I think that's the button) button below the blue and above the guide buttons. I can't remember the exact page you do this during the setup, but I think it's just a "skip" page that says something like " and now we will set up the rear speakers"
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05-26-2018
07:59 PM
Hi All, That probably won't help. While your TV has HDMI, a TV that old won't have the HDMI ARC (Audio Return Channel). If you don't have optical, you may have the Coaxial output (similar to RCA red/white but most likely a single slot of orange or black colour). If you don't have any of those use the RCA Red/white with a 3.5mm adaptor. Those options will give you the best quality in that order. I would suggest a lot of soundbars you would now be limited to HDMI or optical, so there's not as much choice for a 12 year old TV.
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04-09-2018
08:16 AM
Unfortunately I don't think you can control the SA3 without a LIfestyle attached. As far as I'm aware, that system was designed to run through a Lifestyle (with the BoseLink cable) and while it has the aux inputs, you still needed the Lifestyle as the control system for it. Since the Lifestyle SoundTouch systems are not compatable with the SA1/2/3 (they went for wifi control over the cable option) I don't think you can control the sa3 seperately. Honestly I can't see anything bad about the bass in the SA-5. but each to thier own.
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04-08-2018
03:39 AM
I think it's pretty standard for the type of products they sell. I could probably count the number of headphones that charge by USB-C on 1 hand and if I go into the nearest three electronic stores (I'm in Australia) I doubt I'd find any for sale. I just had a quick search and most USB-C headphones are wired. I can't think of any portable speakers yet that do. Even have a look at mobile phones. If I go into a store, I'd probably find 5-10% of phones being sold use USB-C. Yes I know the latest high-end ones do but even within a brand (eg samsung) not all phones support it yet. Bose tend not to adapt a technology until it's more widespread and has become the standard (unless it's a technology they themselves have developed). For example HDMI-ARC has only just come to most Bose home theatre.
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04-08-2018
03:03 AM
No. Every speaker needs power, and the power pack and cables supply power to the rear speakers. The powerpack is also the "receiver" that gets the signal from the soundbar. The "wireless Speaker" part comes from the speakers not needing wires to connect to the soundbar. The alternative would be to have speakers with rechargable batteries, but what do you do when you run out of battery mid-film? Wait two hours for them to recharge?.
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04-08-2018
02:55 AM
I don't think it's possible. All the newer SoundLinks are compatible with the Bose connect app, and they all have the ability to pair together. Becuase the mini is not compatible with the app, I don't think it will ever be. The only way to do what you want would be with a splitter cable and the 3.5mm inputs.
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04-01-2018
06:50 PM
Unfortunately that's the limitation of your system. It will only stream from digital sources such as BT from a phone/tablet, Wifi from the internet/home network. CDs Radio and AUX will only play through the Wave system.
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03-31-2018
09:07 PM
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It's likely you purchased the wrong Bose universal remote. THe right remote should control Bose volume without any settings changes. When Bose talk about universal, they mean all the other devices (TVs, BD players etc) not the Bose device. As new Bose products come out they have newer tech which needs a newer remote and the old style doesn't work. With the SOundTouch 520 I think it used the same remote as the SoundTouch 120/130/520 and the Cinemate 120/130/520 (just replaced a couple of buttons for BT and SoundTouch) however the Cinemate 15 and Solo remotes look the same (slightly different colour remote) would not work. Did you purchase direct from Bose? If so I'm sure htey would swap it for the correct one (not speaking for them, but they are normally good if they sold the wrong one). Best to have the serial number of the system so they make sure you get the right one this time.
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03-31-2018
08:58 PM
The easist way would be to plug it in to the headphone out on either device. Alternatively you can pick up a BT transmitter. Most will be cheap chineseones with undetermined quality, but if you search on this forum a couple of people have already suggested some. Just be aware many will have lag between what you see and what you hear. Most branded TVs are starting to get better with thier internal transmitters, but even a TV brought 2 years ago would likley have audio lag with BT headphones.
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03-31-2018
08:48 PM
You've probably hit on the only difference. As far as I'm aware the Bass module is the only difference and while I've only heard it at costco (where it's not the best setup) it's significantly reduced bass performance and there does not seem to be as much immersion as with the AM 300. I assume you can still connect up the read speakers, but considering the costco I went into doesn't sell them I can't be certain. I'm not sure but it could also have a simpler remote capability (most costco items come with basic remotes with volume functions only) You won't find any details on thier site as it is for restricted sale - not even thier stores sell it. So if you want to know more you would probably have to go back to Costco and hope thier staff know about it.
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03-31-2018
08:42 PM
It has less to do with your internet speed and wifi coverage and more to do with router settings/number of aerials and some other things. The problem is that many people do not know how to set up routers or networks (they let thier ISP set up thier network), and those that do sometimes think they know more than they do (and don't necessarily know how thier changes affect other parts of the network - I often fall into this category, but a simple reset often corrects my mistakes) Every router shares the multiple connections and spreads the bandwidth between them all (and priotises some connections over others). I've found most standard networks will accept maybe 15-20 devicescomfortably, but when more households have multiple TVs, computers, tablets, watches etc, it cuts down how many can be used at once. Even when not downloading, many continually connect to update information when turned on (TVs when checking menus, Games consoles checking messages, tablets updating facebook etc). So I would suggest on a standard network, you would probably get 4-6 SoundTouch devices runnign smoothly. If thye need more consider network cables or better routers. Personally most of my devices are using network cables and a network switch, which makes it a more stable connection and leaves the wifi free for computers, tablets and phones. It creates some bottlenecks, but it's not often I'm using several network devices near the TV at the same time. THen it's just a matter of how good you network is.
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03-31-2018
08:19 PM
As far as I'm aware it would not work. The Soundbar does have an output, but being designed to go to a TV it only does video out (why output sound to the TV when you have sound coming out of the bar?). One thing you could do is SoundTouch to the second device. Generally that's not great for video as they can be delays in the audio - fine if you're listening to music, but not for movies. Theoretically if you found an amplifier with two HDMi outs you could link them. You also have the issue of where you expect sound to come from. If you have two soundbars, you have two locations that you are hearing Left/Centre/Right sound. The systems can't calibrate for that, it won't add surround sound, could even be disorintating and it could just sound bad. You would be best going for a 5.1 system to fill the whole room.
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03-31-2018
07:29 PM
HI, That makes it easier, especially with the photos. First step - It looks like you are plugged into the Audio input on the TV, when it needs to be output. Since your Bose does not have the optical cable, you will need either a different cable or an adaptor to go from the Audio out (to the left of where you are currently plugged in). So what you need is an 3.5mm (similar to a headphone jack) to RCA (Red and white cables you currently use) You should be able to pick one up from most electrical stores.
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03-29-2018
11:16 PM
To clarify, this is using BT to one device (the master) and then will only connect to the second/third/fourth speaker by Wifi. I have seen people use a hotspot as a wifi router before, but it gets complicated and it's not always stable - particularly in the setup. YOu probably even need a second device that is your "streamer" and the device that is your "hotspot". The reason being is that you need to connect to the SOundTouch by WIFI to tell it to connect to the hotspots WIFI. So if using the one device, as soon as you switch on the hotspot you loose the connection to the ST20. It could be easier to pickup a cheap wifi router and use that as your network. I think this may work, but I'm not sure if updates to SoundTouch now require a constant internet connection.
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03-29-2018
10:45 PM
That should work fine for listening. The only issue I see is that the Wave won't wake up through aux, so you would have to turn it on everytime you want to listen to it (By touching the top, or by the physical remote). You wouldn't be able to turn it on from the chromecast or by voice control.
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03-29-2018
10:37 PM
It would help to know what sytem you have and what connection you are using.
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03-29-2018
10:36 PM
THat may be correct, but since it charges by USB, a USB power adapter such as a phone charger or computer USB port will be fine. In fact with the USB charger that many Bose speakers (such as the Revolve) all you need to do is replace the US adaptor (the prongs "slide off" with your local part. Note: If using third party USB power adaptors there could be differences in charging speeds.
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03-29-2018
10:30 PM
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As above, it's a requirement from the google play store. If you are really concerned, using the app is not necessary to use the headphones as most can be paired straight through the BT settings in your device. Saying that there are some nice features that you would miss out on (Some on selected headphones): Firmware updates Music share google assistant sleep mode (to save battery) ANC control more precise choosing between multiple remembered devices Find my buds
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03-29-2018
10:25 PM
Actually, since you seem to be talking about the series I, it won't charge through USB - it has another round port above that the charger plugs into. THe USB on that model is just for serviceing and repairs. I'm not sure if there could be any issues caused by having plugged the usb into power.
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03-29-2018
10:22 PM
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My first suggestion is that the HDMI CEC "link" has temporarily broken. If you haven't already I would try the following: Unplug the HDMI from both ends and plug it back in. Power cycle the TV and the Bose - Unplug from the wall for 10 minutes and plug back in. Make sure the TVs settings (I think Panasonic use the viera sync) have HDMI CEC turned on) and the same for the Bose (acess through the app)
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