Meanwhile....   https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/6/17434294/airplay-2-sonos-speakers-in-july ... View more

This may sound like a silly question, but have you tried unplugging the ST300 from the wall for a period of time and plugging it back in again?  I use mine with the same TV and while I have never had issues with the ARC signal dropping out, I have had to do this a couple of times when losing the sub connection. ... View more

Let's not make this personal by questioning my integrity please.   I'm probably repeating myself a bit here, but I bought my system last year when Airplay 2 compatibility was announced.  This was one of the driving factors in making my purchase as I had been using the original Airplay since circa 2007.   I appreciate that there has been a large delay with Apple bringing Airplay 2 to market.  The Integration with my TV works fantastically, for everything else I have been using bluetooth which has quality and range issues as well as my music dropping out if I get a phone call or my timer goes off.   Sonos is already Apple Music compatible, having Airplay 2 which they have mentioned will be in their future speakers and the resultant ability of being able to integrate into HomeKit would just be a bonus.  If they bring out a AV speaker with HDMI (my reason for discounting them in the first place) as is rumoured then I would have no problem with buying the system that does everything that I need it to do.  I am in a fortunate position where buying a new system is not an issue and if the Playbase is anything to go by the sound should be on a par.   Having said that, if I were to know that my existing system would be compatible by the end of the year I would be more than happy to keep it.  It's the not knowing that is the issue here.  I don't want a system that might not ever do what I need it to.   I don't think that I have any more to say on the matter, so will leave this here as if I repeat myself any more I am going to seriously start boring the people that are following this thread.     ... View more

 wrote: Could Bose be more transparent about the AirPlay 2? Sure. Are they obligated to? No. Apple is currently listing those spearkers who officially announced an update for AirPlay 2 (besides the HomePod no other speakers support AirPlay 2) - and no timeframe when it will be released.    My guess is, that Bose is exploring the possibility on how to implement AirPlay 2 the best way. Suprisingly such a process takes usually some time. I rather prefer to have a "perfect implementation" which takes its time for developing and testing than having a buggy implementation which needs several updates to fix all issues. Sometimes it is impossible to give a timeframe. Apple itself needed almost a year to release AirPlay 2.     I am not convinced that this will be coming to the full soundtouch range based on the following info from the Sonos website ( https://blog. sonos.com/en- gb/ airplay2-coming/) .  Their very detailed explanation says that only certain models will have backwards compatibility due to the amount of computing power required.  I am assuming that this will be the case with some speakers in the soundtouch range.  Sonos also explain that they aim to have Airplay 2 by the end of the year.  If only we could get such transparency from Bose.   All I would like to know is if my ST300 and ST20 III will eventually be compatible.  At the moment this is preventing me from buying any more Bose speakers and potentially compelling me to sell my current set up depending on what Sonos announce as their new home theatre speaker tomorrow.  Moderators, if you are unable to comment any further than you aren't able to give us any info and keep on checking, maybe management should be sent a link to this thread so they can see how dissatisfied their Apple Music using customers are? ... View more

 Apologies...  I appear to have double posted.  Mods, can we delete this duplicate please? ... View more

Thanks for the advice.   I am aware of the ST300, I own one as well as the sub and a ST20 III all purchased within the last year since the Airplay 2 announcement was made.  If both of these are able to recieve an Airplay 2 enabling update within the near future (or at least a promise that it will be available), I will more than likely stick with my Bose.   It is still extremely frustrating that no one from Bose is updating their customers who have invested a lot of money in their kit when their competitors are able to offer this info.  I see that other topics on the forum are being watched by mods so am sure that this is being read.  Bose customer service advice is to continue checking their channels and website when the competition announced which devices would be backward compatible nearly a month a go.  The last offical update from Bose was June last year.   I am aware of the bluetooth option and it is flawed both from an audio quality and range perspective when compared to wifi streaming, not to mention the interruption to music when recieving phone calls.  I fail to see how this 90s technology gives Bose the technical edge over what Sonos are currently offering... for example, being compatible with more streaming services and having Alexa built in just to name a couple.   At the end of the day, I want a system that sounds good, looks good and meets my requirements of working with the TV via HDMI ARC connection and being able to stream over wifi throughout the house with Apple Music.  If another system becomes available that meets these requirements while Bose have still made no comittments to their existing customers I will have no issues whatsoever with buying a new system.   Over to you Bose...... ... View more

I also think that it would be nice if Bose would give us some information, but given my experience as an owner over the last year I very much doubt that this will be the case.  I don't know why they can't have a much more open approach like Sonos and at least let us know which speakers will be firmware updatable even if it is not possible to give a date.  Surely that's not too much to ask?   All this lack of response is doing is making me more likely to get rid of my Bose kit and replace with Sonos which is already Apple Music compatible irrespective of which models are Airplay 2 compatible.   With the upcoming Sonos event next week on June 6th, if they announce a HDMI equipped soundbar as is expected then it wont be a difficult decision for me.  Bose really need to up their game given the current competition. ... View more

I currently own a ST300 with sub alongside a ST20.  As an Apple Music user switching to Sonos is currently a consideration.  I do not want to switch my music service to Spotify as my car is equipped with Apple CarPlay and the voice control over Apple Music while driving works very well for me.  Apple Music also syncs my personal music collection from my iTunes collection from the pre streaming days a lot of which isn't available on the main streaming services.  The decision on whether to give up on my Bose setup is hanging on two things at the moment...   1. Whether Bose are going to introduce Airplay 2 on the Soundtouch 300 and Soundtouch 20.  While Sonos have issued a press release advising exactly which of their existing speakers will be compatible with Airplay 2 in the future via firmware update, Bose's position of referring to an update made last June while not providing any new information is frustrating to say the least.  If Sonos are able to disclose this information, why can't Bose?   2. What Sonos are going to announce at their June 6th event.  They appear to be launching a new home cinema speaker.  If this is a sucessor to the playbar and has everything that I need it to do, including Airplay 2 and HDMI (optical only was a reason of mine for discounting the Playbar in the first place) then I will seriously consider getting rid of my Bose kit.  As an added bonus, the new Sonos speaker is rumoured to have Alexa / Google assistant built in.  More info here...  http://variety.com/2018/digital/news/sonos-june-6-event-1202796800/   Sound is a subjective thing, although hearing friends' Sonos systems they seem to be on a par with my Bose kit.  The ability with Sonos to be able to tune the system EQ wise to anything other than the standard calibration as is the case with Bose is also a bonus as I find the Bose system to be lacking a little in the mid range with no way of correcting this.  I have not been able to give sound of the Bose speakers a fair chance though having been streaming my music over bluetooth for nearly a year which I know affects the sound quality.  I'm happy with the sound when watching the TV though.   On the software and features side as well as communication of this with their customers, Bose seriously need to up their game.  I will add that I am aware that the delay in Airplay 2 is down to Apple... the implementation is not my issue here, it's the lack of information.   If Sonos release their new speaker and it does everything that I want, while Bose remain silent and unhelpful on upcoming features I can see myself making the switch.     ... View more

@Emulordwrote: Then we both are stupid, haha. I bought a set of ST20 + 2 ST10 + ST Adapt last year, following the announcement, and truly hope that this won't end up being a letdown. I might very well buy another set of speakers designed by a competitor if these, while brand new, won't let me create the "home cinema" I am patiently waiting for as of now. Anyway, the relative lack of news is not really Bose's fault, the implementation not even being final on iOS and Apple's very own HomePod.   If Sonos are able to annouce which of their speakers are going to be compatible with Airplay 2, I fail to see why Bose can't.  I just want to know if I am keeping my speakers or putting this forray into Bose down as a (rather expensive) bad experience. ... View more

While I have been very patient with Bose and Airplay 2 support bearing in mind a lot of the delay appears to be on the Apple side, Sonos have today announced which speakers will be supporting Airplay 2 (https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/25/17283114/sonos-apple-airplay-2-support-details).  The issue appears to be that not all Sonos speakers are able to support Airplay 2 due to the processing power involved and the amount of audio that needs to be buffered.   How far are Bose away from making a similar announcement?  I bought a Soundtouch 300 and subwoofer as well as a Soundtouch 20 series 3 not long after Bose's Airplay 2 announcement last June (https://twitter.com/bose/status/871833192524730369?lang=en).  It is somewhat of a frustration that any questions regarding Airplay 2 appear to be directed back to a statement made by Bose in the forums nearly a year ago.   I am not looking for a firm date but a bit more information would be appreciated.  I have spent a lot of money on Bose kit on the promise of Airplay 2 compatibility, yes this was probably a bit stupid on my part and I may have to start from scratch to actually achieve what I am looking for if Bose don't come through on their promise, but surely with Airplay 2 now in beta and Bose being a launch partner there is more information available.  I am not, however, expecting a helpful response based on other responses on these forums. ... View more