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It looks like someone at Bose is deleting my posts with the explanation so hopfully enough people can see this before it gets deleted.... TuneIn will not be able to add most of the stations because they are restricted by copyright licensing which prohibit them from listing radio stations who do not have license to broadcast/stream music outside of their geographical area.  The issue is related to the fact that TuneIn is not just an agregator of radio stations but rather is considered as a re-broadcaster. The reason for this is they are manipulating the stream by changing the quality and inserting their own ads. Unlike the previous service - Vtuner - which simply provided the directory service.  My guess is that while Bose had to pay VTuner for the service, with TuneIn Bose is getting some kickback of advertising dollars. I would not hold my breath with anticipation for adding the lost stations unless Bose revert back to VTuner.....  ... View more

@pwatkins wrote: Absolutely!   Bose partnered with TuneIn for $$$$. Makes total sense greedy Bose would switch to any different service that could make them extra $$.  No matter how it degrads the service. Of course, vTune is an aggregator.  TuneIn rebroadcasts and has copyright to deal with. Its all about the money. Noting to do with what the customer wants.    I thought Bose was in the hardware business. I guess they now want to be in the software and content delivery business.    Totally sucks they use customers they acquired for their hardware then switch the service like this. A total bate and switch.    Again, if Bose had wanted to they could have added vTune as an option in the "Add services" option in SoundTouch. Like Spotify, Amazon Music, Deezer, Sirius XM,  are. But vTune can't offer Bose potential revenue as those others can. So vTune is dumped.   All Bose cares about is $$ so they shove it down our throats offering no quality alternative.    My guess is that TuneIn requires exclusivity hence why Vtuner was removed. That being said, Bose is a large diversified company and the deal with TuneIn is probably going to help them stay relevant in a market that is slipping away from under their feet. I would think the TuneIn is probably a big deal for them ... View more

TuneIn is restricted by copyright to block stations that have no proper license to play music in other geographical regions because TuneIn is considered RE-broadcaster (as opposed to Vtuner which is an agregator). That's why it was a bad decision to switch over from Vtuner to TuneIn. ... View more

The thing that amezes me most is the fact Bose is rolling out such major change without conducting a detailed research and analysis. Every startup knows to run a competitive analysis before switching to a new platform or tool set yet, Bose went ahead and released such change. Must be blinded by $$$$.... This is not the Bose we used to know...... ... View more

@Kashgar wrote: Hi, everyone.... here is a workaround that seams to work, where you can define your favorite radio on your preset....but where you need a NAS or a server....I don’t have...It’s based on MinimServer (https://minimserver.com/). Explanation are in French but you can easily let translate it by google Bonjour à tous, En attendant que Bose ajoute l'hypothétique possibilité d'ajouter une webradio via son url, il y a un moyen de le faire actuellement, c'est du bricolage, mais ça fonctionne (si vous avez déjà un serveur qui tourne H24 sur votre réseau local), L'astuce est d'y installer un serveur dlna, et, à la place de lui faire partager des fichiers musicaux il faut partager une playlist avec toutes les webradios que vous souhaitez écouter. Personnellement, je le fais avec MinimServer (https://minimserver.com/), ça fonctionne très bien, on peut toujours affecter ces radios à des boutons, comme avant. Il est gratuit et existe pour une multitude de plateformes. Attention, tous les serveurs dlna ne supportent pas la diffusion de webradios via une playlist. La playlist doit être constituée comme suit, et enregistrée avec l'extension .m3u : #EXTM3U #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]Pure FM http://radios.rtbf.be/pure-128.mp3 #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]Classic 21 http://radios.rtbf.be/classic21-128.mp3 #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]La Premiere http://radios.rtbf.be/laprem1ere-128.mp3 #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]VivaCite http://radios.rtbf.be/vivacharleroi-128.mp3 #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]Musiq'3 http://radios.rtbf.be/musiq3-128.mp3 #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]NRJ Be http://streamingp.shoutcast.com/NRJPremium #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]Bel RTL http://audiostream.rtl.be/belrtl128 #EXTINF:-1,[;mp3]Nostalgie http://broadcast.infomaniak.net/nostalgiepremium-128.mp3 Ce n'est probablement la solution idéale, mais c'est à mon gout, nettement plus confortable que le Bluetooth surtout si on a plusieurs enceintes SoundTouch à la maison. Bien à vous.   An easier workaround might be to download a free radio app such as radio.net to your mobile and connect it to the SoundTouch with BT.  ... View more

@pwatkins wrote: And how do they justify their cut?    Read the updated user agreement we are all subject to.    Her is a snippet that essentially states they monitor what hardware you have /use, what media you listen to and when. So they can determine based on average user data what type of music is most popular, how many listeners to establish impressions per 1,000, ad rates.    But what's worse is the crapy stations now offered. Tunein makes me want to tune out! A whole slew of commercial stations. Gone are the cool niche staions offering uninterrupted unique music.   Snippet from current user agreement: " Big Brother is here" Who knew when you picked up your Bose equipment a few years ago this is what you were signing up for. Just took the time to get the back end server tech. sorted and enough folks on high speed. This was on the roadmap I expect for years.    Connected Bose products. If you connect your Bose product (such as headphones or speakers) to the Internet or to a Bose software or application, we may automatically receive information from the Bose product about how you use the product. Such information includes: • Technical data, such as your product serial number or model number, device operating system version, MAC address(es), Wi-Fi® signal strength, firmware version, IP address, SSIDs, log files, durations, service tokens, Internet connection type and provider, and unique identifiers associated with the computer, tablet, or mobile device used in connection with the Bose product • Usage data, such as time spent using different features/settings of the product, the day and time you used the product, button presses, the media and other external sources to which you connect your product, and, as applicable, your product's power spectrum, sound pressure level, volume levels, and streaming information (including content stored on system presets, stations played, playlists, artists, albums, songs, or podcasts), time zone, and transactional data enabling digital rights management (e.g. for music content providers to give appropriate credit to artists depending on how often their content is played) • Service "tokens" containing authentication information that enables delivery of third-party content to your Bose product (e.g. to sync your connected products to your Spotify account each time you use them) • Diagnostic data, such as battery life, the quality of the wireless connection and error logs); and • Environmental data (e.g. noise level and audio frequencies).   TuneIn started many years ago as an excellent service for aggregating online radio stations from all over the world. If a radio station was missing, you could email them and they would add it withing 48 hours. Since they switched to monitized platform, they became an evil monster. They barely reply to customer support and when they finally do reply, you get just simple canned replies. It is a platform driven by greed and profit only and it seems that most electronic manufacturers are jumping on this train as Tune-In becomes the exclusive internet radio service on many streaming devices.  I own a business in the consumer electronics and honestly I cannot recommend opur clients any device which has Tune-In because I know the client would not be able to get access to their favorite stations.  Currently I am not using the SoundTouch with TuneIn but rather use a mobile app used Radio.Net on my phone and stream to the SoundTouch via BT. But I'm very unhappy that I need to do this given the high price I paid for the SoundTouch ... View more

TuneIn takes free online streaming, restream them through its platform while inserting its own ads and collect advertisement $$. What's wrong with this picture? ... View more

Tune In is probably kicking back some advertising $$ to Bose.... It has nothing to do with which solution is better. I assume this is the reason for TuneIn being installed on most streaming devices ... View more

@Jason_G wrote: 11/28 - Update:   We would like to sincerely apologize for the disruption of your internet radio service.   During the shift, we heard from many customers about three core issues:   Audio quality on certain channels Delays in radio streams sometimes by many minutes Unavailability or inaccessibility to specific channels   As of November 27th we have released a fix on SoundTouch that should resolve Audio quality and Audio delays (issues 1 and 2 above).   With regard to missing channels, we are taking several approaches. First, we are keeping a list of the channels that you’ve notified us are missing. We are working closely with TuneIn to add those channels to their service where possible – they share our concern and have been working hard to help us remedy the SoundTouch experience. On this issue, we want to keep hearing from you so we can be sure to know what matters most – if you have a specific station request, please post it here in this thread.    Beyond engaging with TuneIn directly, our team is working to add a method for users to add any radio stream URL to SoundTouch and set it as a preset.   We appreciate your patience during this time and are working to resolve these issues. TuneIn blocks most radio stations outside of the US from being played in the US. This is not a new issue but rather an old issue that renders Tunein as non-desireable service.    In the past I contacted both the radio stations and TuneIn trying to resolve the issues of being unable to stream my favorite non-US stations inside the US. Aparently Tune-IN is considered as re-broadcasting service and therefore it falls under the PPL/SoundExchange agreements.   PPL negotiates and collects royalties for performing rights to owners of the master recordings, performers and non-featured musicians. Essentially, it’s the British version of SoundExchange. However, unlike US stations, UK terrestrial radio stations are required   to pay performers as well as songwriters, and PPL collects for those royalties as well. PPL has a reciprocal agreement with SoundExchange for online performance royalties, meaning that UK artists get paid when their music is listened to on American online radio stations, and vice versa. Or at least they’re supposed to – as online broadcasters are required to pay PPL when the music they play is listened to in Britain.   Here is the link to the full article: https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2013/07/29/americanradio/    The problem is that Tune-In refuses to pay royalties to non-us artists listened to in the US and therefore is required to block those stations. I don't see how Tune-In is going to add these missing stations unless they start paying royalties.   You will be better off rolling back to the VTuner service which worked as a router (rather than an aggregator such as Tune-In) to online radio stations or alternatively, allow users to add their own URL's to online streaming stations of their choice as you mentioned. Obviously streaming a foreign stations in the browser is not blocked and is outside of the royalties limitations. ... View more